More proof that big developers need to make their own engines again.

I would not be shocked at all if Minecraft 2 was an Xbox/PC exclusive.

Could it be that they are trying to develop their own cloud physics engine instead of licensing the tech from CloudGine so that they can add those tools to their SDKs.  If physics is going to be a big component of cloud compute it really makes sense to get a leg up on developing those tools if you want to sell the tech to developers and making it easy for them to include within their games.

Totally agree on the bundles.  If ms is releasing bundles know it would be crazy to price them at the price come Black Friday or during the Christmas rush.  Get the first adopters non price conscious first then drop 50 off the price like they will during the holiday rush.

Console as they are... Are on their way out everybody knows that.... Doesn't mean XB and MS as gaming platform and maker are going anywhere quiet the contrary they are gearing up for the new era where the L ne between platforms blends more and more and where the content is and should be available anywhere any time....

No matter how people diss MS and talk shit about them in every field most of the time they have been,pioneering technological advances both in software hardware for the past decades and it has been proven time and again by their incredible financial results year after year and their incredible and almost unmatched stability in the distance....

Flip as you'd like MS is a stellar company than many companies have tried to match and very few have succeeded and none have hold the distance so far...

I think it's pretty unlikely that MS are going to be locking out anyone in the console space from using Havoc. As others have mentioned, these companies don't live in isolated bubbles. Even when they're competing against each other, they're still more than happy to work together if it will make them money (which Havoc will).

How innocent...

The reason why MS have good financial results and has become the overblown behemoth it is, is because it has operated in a vacuum. A monopoly that they have operated for two and a half decades now. 

They were brought to the supreme court by a collection of states in "USA vs Microsoft corp", here I provide a quote from Judge Jackson (the presiding judge)

"Microsoft's conduct itself was the cause of any "perceived bias"; Microsoft executives had, according to him, "proved, time and time again, to be inaccurate, misleading, evasive, and transparently false. ... Microsoft is a company with an institutional disdain for both the truth and for rules of law that lesser entities must respect. It is also a company whose senior management is not averse to offering specious testimony to support spurious defenses to claims of its wrongdoing."

Their corporate culture is a disgrace and anyone supporting their activities should question their own moral compass.

Mods... please note that all the above are facts, followed by a relatively natural point of view given the behaviour of the company in question. 

If you can't do it yourself buy who can.

I dont see this as a biggie. I am sure that the engine will still be sold to any company that wants it (including Sony) though I guess the MS studios will be taking advantage of this to improve their games/engines. Either way I dont see it as a problem.

Well i'm not suggesting MS will prevent other developers from using vanilla Havoc, I am however suggesting Xbox One (and possibly W10) will have an extra Havoc option of offloading to the cloud. Now they're in the middleware, own the middleware, they can change the middleware and make it a default option. There's little reason why Call of Duty could not go full CRACKDOWN 3 and offer a NEW MARKETABLE DESTRUCTION MODE when it's a mouseclick away....and that suits MS because it makes XB1 CoD look better and furthers mmmmm PENETRATION of their Cloud endeavours.