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b00moscone said:
JRPGfan said:


GOD NO!

 

It has a "Intel Core i5-5200U" which is like a dual core tiny 15w (not sure how much TPD they have) CPU for ultra books.

Its MUCH much weaker than the CPU the others have a i7 4720HQ (these are like 45w cpus, that spank those tiny 15w ones arse in performance).

 

Its 940M is also a big step down from a 950M.


While I am aware of some of these problems, he doesn't want to fork out too much money, so i'm trying to find something cost-efficient while still being good enough.

That being said, there is still room in the buget and better laptops out there, its best to just resaerch what is required for the games she plays and then decide what laptop to buy from there.

I think a gaming laptop that he would want to last a long time should have an i7. An i7 can consistently run at 100 degrees C without too much issue.

 

At least that is my preference since my gaming laptop has lasted 4 years of hadcore gaming without issue.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/blog/2009/02/26/intel-core-i7-temperatures/ outdated a bit but still stands.



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I think Laptop with Geforce 940 GT is a good choice especially if u are a mobile version an rarely play heavy games on a journey. But you need to pick the 14 inch screens. Most modern games can be played on medium setting or high (depend on the games ) with 720p 30 fps (MGS V can have high setting with 720p 30fps).



JinxRake said:

Hello folks.


I'm aiming to get my GF a decent laptop this Christmas - so she'd finally get off my poor Lenovo for her LoL needs -. I'd like to get something that's got decent power for gaming - MMOs and the like - and which could be considered at least reliable.

At the moment my aim is this:

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-X550JX-DB71-15-6-Notebook-Laptop/dp/B00Z4UC0F4

Would anyone have a better suggestion in about the same price range - i.e. max. 800$ -?

You can get the latest MacBook Air for 13" for $800.  Can play BF4 MP, 12 hour battery life, and it runs windows fine if that's what you want.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Macbook Pro Retina is my bae!


I probably should get used to a Windows based comp.
Just bought a $200 HP pos, so hopefully I can get more confident with Excel and basic coding.



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Eddie_Raja said:
JinxRake said:

Hello folks.


I'm aiming to get my GF a decent laptop this Christmas - so she'd finally get off my poor Lenovo for her LoL needs -. I'd like to get something that's got decent power for gaming - MMOs and the like - and which could be considered at least reliable.

At the moment my aim is this:

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-X550JX-DB71-15-6-Notebook-Laptop/dp/B00Z4UC0F4

Would anyone have a better suggestion in about the same price range - i.e. max. 800$ -?

You can get the latest MacBook Air for 13" for $800.  Can play BF4 MP, 12 hour battery life, and it runs windows fine if that's what you want.

You know the reason it can be turned on (idleing) for like 12hours is because its got very low power usage components right?

It has one of those weak 15w CPUs that are small dual cores.

Only 4gb of ram, and 128 GB SSD.

Intel HD Graphics 6000 =>  integrated igpu on the cpu (tiny little weak thing).

 

The laptop I linked from MSI that was 829$ is going to be like 10-20 times as powerfull for the same price.

The only area this mac book wins is how long its able to idle for (12hours).

 

Also calling BS on your claims of it playing BF4 MP well, on that weak cpu and no dedicated graphics card.

It ll be running a tiny resolution at best to do so, and its probably still laggy as crap, with all the options set to low.



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NiKKoM said:
You'll see she will go play Candy Crush on that machine...


Hogging my PS4 at the moment with Dark Souls 2.

Can't say I'm worried about what she'll be playing on this beast.

 

The Assus little monster seems to be a clear choice in this price range, since the recommandations for it are pretty strong.

 

Sorry, not interested in buying a MacBook. And I would, always, prefer a dedicated graphics card to most anything.

 

My 1.5 yo Lenovo is chugging along nicely and I'd be happy if I can get something that at least keeps up with this one.



JRPGfan said:
Eddie_Raja said:
JinxRake said:

Hello folks.


I'm aiming to get my GF a decent laptop this Christmas - so she'd finally get off my poor Lenovo for her LoL needs -. I'd like to get something that's got decent power for gaming - MMOs and the like - and which could be considered at least reliable.

At the moment my aim is this:

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-X550JX-DB71-15-6-Notebook-Laptop/dp/B00Z4UC0F4

Would anyone have a better suggestion in about the same price range - i.e. max. 800$ -?

You can get the latest MacBook Air for 13" for $800.  Can play BF4 MP, 12 hour battery life, and it runs windows fine if that's what you want.

You know the reason it can be turned on (idleing) for like 12hours is because its got very low power usage components right?

It has one of those weak 15w CPUs that are small dual cores.

Only 4gb of ram, and 128 GB SSD.

Intel HD Graphics 6000 =>  integrated igpu on the cpu (tiny little weak thing).

 

The laptop I linked from MSI that was 829$ is going to be like 10-20 times as powerfull for the same price.

The only area this mac book wins is how long its able to idle for (12hours).

That CPU is about as strong if not stronger than the PS4's. and that GPU is about half as strong as the X1 -> all in only 15w.   Look buddy I know what I bought, and I know why I bought it.  I will trade performance for 4x the battery life.   I can run every game out, and I can play them for 4 hours straight on battery.  Enjoy your 30 minute "Mobile" gaming sessions.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Eddie_Raja said:

That CPU is about as strong if not stronger than the PS4's. and that GPU is about half as strong as the X1 -> all in only 15w.   Look buddy I know what I bought, and I know why I bought it.  I will trade performance for 4x the battery life.   I can run every game out, and I can play them for 4 hours straight on battery.  Enjoy your 30 minute "Mobile" gaming sessions.

The CPU is only stronger in singlethreaded performance (by quite some margin, that's true), but can't come close to outperform the 8 cores of the APU in PS4 or Xbox ONE on code which makes halfway good use of the number of cores present.

The GPU, on the other hand, only comes up to 192 Streaming processors compared to the 768 of an Xbox ONE. While that would suggest around a fourth instead of  half as you claim, these numbers are not fully comparable due to different architectures and philosophy. In raw power, the iGPU could reach around one third of the Xbox ONE power, but Intel throttles the integrated graphics part as soon as the TDP goes over target, which is very soon unless there ain't any work on the CPU. Also, only DDR3L 1600 support makes the graphics part choke on the limited bandwith (which is also why AMD's APU can't even shine much in that department against Intel, they are limited by the same bottleneck).

All in all, the iGPU only reaches around 1/5 of the power of an Xbox ONE under real life game rendering workload conditions and the CPU is about 30 percent slower than the one in PS4/Xbox ONE when they're running on all cores. Which is still impressive for a 15W chip, but still not good enough for some more serious gaming.



Bofferbrauer said:
Eddie_Raja said:

That CPU is about as strong if not stronger than the PS4's. and that GPU is about half as strong as the X1 -> all in only 15w.   Look buddy I know what I bought, and I know why I bought it.  I will trade performance for 4x the battery life.   I can run every game out, and I can play them for 4 hours straight on battery.  Enjoy your 30 minute "Mobile" gaming sessions.

The CPU is only stronger in singlethreaded performance (by quite some margin, that's true), but can't come close to outperform the 8 cores of the APU in PS4 or Xbox ONE on code which makes halfway good use of the number of cores present.

The GPU, on the other hand, only comes up to 192 Streaming processors compared to the 768 of an Xbox ONE. While that would suggest around a fourth instead of  half as you claim, these numbers are not fully comparable due to different architectures and philosophy. In raw power, the iGPU could reach around one third of the Xbox ONE power, but Intel throttles the integrated graphics part as soon as the TDP goes over target, which is very soon unless there ain't any work on the CPU. Also, only DDR3L 1600 support makes the graphics part choke on the limited bandwith (which is also why AMD's APU can't even shine much in that department against Intel, they are limited by the same bottleneck).

All in all, the iGPU only reaches around 1/5 of the power of an Xbox ONE under real life game rendering workload conditions and the CPU is about 30 percent slower than the one in PS4/Xbox ONE when they're running on all cores. Which is still impressive for a 15W chip, but still not good enough for some more serious gaming.

-Actually the CPU can.  That CPU is stronger than a Sandy Bridge DESKTOP i3, which is about how strong the PS4's CPU is.

-LOL idk what you are talking about in terms of GPU.  That GPU is 768 GLOPS which is actually over half of the X1, and it doesn't need nearly as much bandwidth due to how Intel builds their GPU's.

I can max out Dishonored just as well as the X1 can.  Sad.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]