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- a reaction to Shuhei Yoshida statement that there is no climate for a successor of the Vita, thread:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=208574&page=1

- Nintendo has sold over 50 million 3DSes without Minecraft

- in spite of the huge impact of mobile on the traditional videogame industry Sony is responsible for the performance of the Vita

- Here is a partial list of reasons the Vita has failed:

  • Sony decided to gouge customers by forcing them to use proprietary memory cards, then jacking up the prices to obscene levels. (A 32GB Vita memory card retails for $100; standard 32GB SDHC memory cards cost $18.)
  • Sony marketed the Vita as a portable system with “console-quality gaming,” then went on to pack it with shoddy spinoffs like Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Call of Duty: Declassified, and Resistance: Burning Skies.
  • Despite all this, a subset of hardcore gamers quickly realized that the Vita was a fantastic machine for indies and niche Japanese games. So what did Sony do? They decided to pivot it as a portable accessory to the PS4—as if anyone would dish out an extra $250 to play Destiny on the toilet.
  • Vita owners also realized that the machine is fantastic for playing old PS1 and PSP games. Sony saw how much money they could make there, and they immediately filled out the PlayStation Store, pleasing fans with truckloads of classic new games every week. Just kidding. They ignored it. Even today you need to use a silly shortcut just to get some old games working on your Vita.
  • Remember the PS2? One of the most successful video game consoles in history? Chock full of great games that could be ported to the Vita in various ways? Someone should remind Sony.
  • Remember BioShock Vita? lmao
  • Sony has pretty much spent the past two years pretending the Vita doesn’t exist, ignoring it at every major trade show and convention. It’s embarrassing.
  • Sony has publicly admitted that they are no longer making Vita games.

http://kotaku.com/mobile-gaming-didnt-kill-the-vita-sony-did-1733350950?

How much do you think it is Sony's responsibility for Vita underperforming?



Nintendo is selling their IPs to Microsoft and this is true because:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=221391&page=1

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I think Sony are obviously responsible. The Vita might have ended up with 25 million lifetime if Sony had done the right things, but in the end, regardless of how you put it, it's smarter of to shift their focus from the Vita to the PS4 (Which, lo and behold, they have).



AbbathTheGrim said:

- a reaction to Shuhei Yoshida statement that there is no climate for a successor of the Vita, thread:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=208574&page=1

- Nintendo has sold over 50 million 3DSes without Minecraft

- in spite of the huge impact of mobile on the traditional videogame industry Sony is responsible for the performance of the Vita

- Here is a partial list of reasons the Vita has failed:

  • Sony decided to gouge customers by forcing them to use proprietary memory cards, then jacking up the prices to obscene levels. (A 32GB Vita memory card retails for $100; standard 32GB SDHC memory cards cost $18.)
  • Sony marketed the Vita as a portable system with “console-quality gaming,” then went on to pack it with shoddy spinoffs like Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Call of Duty: Declassified, and Resistance: Burning Skies.
  • Despite all this, a subset of hardcore gamers quickly realized that the Vita was a fantastic machine for indies and niche Japanese games. So what did Sony do? They decided to pivot it as a portable accessory to the PS4—as if anyone would dish out an extra $250 to play Destiny on the toilet.
  • Vita owners also realized that the machine is fantastic for playing old PS1 and PSP games. Sony saw how much money they could make there, and they immediately filled out the PlayStation Store, pleasing fans with truckloads of classic new games every week. Just kidding. They ignored it. Even today you need to use a silly shortcut just to get some old games working on your Vita.
  • Remember the PS2? One of the most successful video game consoles in history? Chock full of great games that could be ported to the Vita in various ways? Someone should remind Sony.
  • Remember BioShock Vita? lmao
  • Sony has pretty much spent the past two years pretending the Vita doesn’t exist, ignoring it at every major trade show and convention. It’s embarrassing.
  • Sony has publicly admitted that they are no longer making Vita games.

http://kotaku.com/mobile-gaming-didnt-kill-the-vita-sony-did-1733350950?

How much do you think it is Sony's responsibility for Vita underperforming?


These two points would make me a very happy Vita owner from now on in.



I blame Ken Kutaragi, and the excessive cost of PS3 development, that lead SONY from a mega corporation to become just a normal corporation like now. If Sony still big like it was on the past, Sony can support both platform.



A pricecut on both memory cards and the console might help, but at this point Sony doesn't care anymore.



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I mean Sony's execution could have been SO MUCH better, but I still do think that one of the big reasons they Half-Assed the support was because they realized too late that a powerful multi-media console is all but obsolete in a world of more powerful smartphones everyone already owns.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

not to mention what people did to bloodborne, it was so bad i almost thought i was playing an xbox1 game

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No.

The Vita had no chance in North America. Adults were not going to buy another mobile device and Sony has no IP that can attract kids, the primary market for handhelds in the west, over a Nintendo handheld.

Fix all that stuff on that list and the difference would have been minimal.

This article is a "head in the sand" piece over the impact smart-phones have made on the handheld market.



Sony know the reason the Vita is failing but they just wont admit it.



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I think it's silly to not see how both killed the Vita.