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Pavolink said:

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Nice attempt at damage control, you posted on section of 3DW's and SMB's map then posted the whole of SMW's map, 3DW's mapp is one giant map that is all connected like SMW and unlike SMB3, mean while you won't find maps like this in SMB3

All they share with SMB3 is that they have themes where as the layout design is more like SMW even ones like the Ice World share a layout design approach similar to the final area of SMW.

Nope 2D elements aren't the main feature of 3DW they're a new addition to the 3D formula to form a new approach, the are many levels where the 2D elements aren't even focused on, that's because as mentioned 3DW is a mix of all the games. The were some select levels in the Galaxy series that allowed you to explore while the majority were linear this is just like 3DW so the stance is hypocritical.



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Wyrdness said:
Pavolink said:

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Nice attempt at damage control, you posted on section of 3DW's and SMB's map then posted the whole of SMW's map, 3DW's mapp is one giant map that is all connected like SMW and unlike SMB3, mean while you won't find maps like this in SMB3

All they share with SMB3 is that they have themes where as the layout design is more like SMW even ones like the Ice World share a layout design approach similar to the final area of SMW.

Nope 2D elements aren't the main feature of 3DW they're a new addition to the 3D formula to form a new approach, the are many levels where the 2D elements aren't even focused on, that's because as mentioned 3DW is a mix of all the games. The were some select levels in the Galaxy series that allowed you to explore while the majority were linear this is just like 3DW so the stance is hypocritical.

Okayy. I'll try to explain with apples.

In the overworld of SMW, you have a "World" (hence de name). This word is conected by naturals ways, like cheese bridge. You go to soda loke or choco mountains, but all in the same world. You have to travel between trees in the forest of illusion and discover different paths.

In the case of 3DWorld, they are using the same concept behind SMB3, having different worlds, like World 1 (as the picture I posted) or World 3 like the one you posted. There's no one world, but different ones. They are not interconnected or with many secrets but are themed with something like Ice or Desert. This is in some way similar to NSMBU. The game has different areas: ice area, grass area, desert area, cloudy area. NSMBU is more interconected similar to SMW, but it is not as "organic" as SMW.

Take out Galaxy if you want, but Mario 64 and Sunshine can't. Nobody in their right senses can say those games are the same as 3DWorld or that 3DWorld is just another approach to those games.

In the end the point stands, but believe whatever makes you feel better. Just remember that some of us have wider eyes that can see beyond.



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Wii U has nSMBU and 3D World, and DK: TF. The only issue was Metroid and F-Zero. I think for Metroid and F-Zero, lets add Starfox, Nintendo really need to think of something that would capture the audience and get better sales. I mean I doubt F-Zero and Metroid has the same impact as a new SMG game for example.

FE: Awakening did well on the 3Ds to capture new gamers and be hooked into that series, so for the franchise like Metroid, F-Zero and Starfox it should cater for older audiences and maybe add more of a darker side into it. These franchise should really come into the NX, but they should start planning the concepts and ideas as early as now.

For NX, there would still be a mario game and maybe DK in NX's mid life cycle, which they should prioritize IPs that was absent from the Wii U.



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Too bad the Mario 3d world is the lowest selling mainline mario game with only 3.5 million.  Even Mario sunshine sold over 6 million.  And yes sales matter because companys do look at sales.. thats why New super mario bros gets sequels all the time.


Actually, Mario 3D World sold 4.30 millions units.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/sales/software/wiiu.html

It could eventually beat Sunshine if there is a bundle or a Nintendo Select on Wii U.

4.30m till 30. June, Mario 3D World showing great legs, it will probably pass Sunshine numbers even whitout bundle or a Nintendo Select.

Yes 3D world may have sold 4-5 million but it being the worst 3D Mario sold and nintendos own president predicting Wii u would "fail" doesn't make the situation from Wii u any better



Any Nintendo fan for more then two generations already knows that just because Nintendo doesn't release a new iteration in a series, it does not mean they will do so on the next system.

The only games that are guaranteed are Mario, Kirby and Legend of Zelda. Every other franchise gets nothing if Nintendo doesn't feel they can make a profit of it.



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Why do people not treat Mario 3D World like a Mario game? : ( It was a good game. Also, we got DKC:TR. That was good : ( We haven't gotten a 3D DK since N64... Also, F Zero's been MIA for awhile now... o:

I'm not sure if NX will get a Metroid right away either. Maybe a new AC game... o:



 

              

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Mario and DK are already a thing.

I'm hoping we get a Metroid near the end of the Wii U's life, or near launch for NX.

As for F-Zero, I'm not expect that series anytime soon...



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Probably, except for DK. Tropical Freeze was a proper game and I'm not sure we'll get another on the NX. But sure, Metroid, Kirby, Animal Crossing, a new 3D Mario and maybe, just maybe, a proper Star Fox. I'm 100% sure titles like Zelda, 2D Mario, Pikmin, Mario Kar, Smash Bros. and Splatoon will make a return too.

If they handle the situation well, NX will have a pretty amazing line up of games.



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"DKC: Tropical Freeze" was one of the best platformers of all time, and one of the very best DK games. It is a joke to pretend we didn't get a "proper" DK game. DK64 was an outlier, not the norm.



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