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Soundwave said:


They could have multiple form factors, Iwata did say unifying could allow them to have say 3 or 4 form factors instead of the traditional 2. 

 

NX Hybrid Portable Console - 400-500 GFLOPS, new concept high end mobile console that can double as a home console in a pinch but is a premium portable, top of the line type device in that category. $259.99 MSRP. For the person who primary wants a mobile high-end console, but doesn't really care about 1080P graphics on the TV and doesn't want to buy two seperate devices. Enjoy your games on the road and at home. Move your system around room to room if you want. Available Nov. 2016. 

NX Micro-Console - Could be the same exact chipset from the above hybrid device, just as a small microconsole. Since there's no LCD or battery cost, this would be dirt cheap. Perfect for cheapos as a budget entry point into the NX ecosystem. $169.99 MSRP. Available Nov. 2016. 

NX Pro Console - The most premium version of the NX, same family of CPU/GPU/RAM as the two units above but scaled up to 1.5-2 TFLOPS 1080P TV resolution and highest graphic settings (for those devs that want to use it). Has HDD. Aimed for hardcore gamers. $299.99 MSRP. Available Spring 2017. 

etc. I could see that having some merit. 

Lovely how you keep this delusion of "portable", "home", "hybrid" and "micro" NX without any evidence or logic. You're even clueless about specs.

Get inside your limited mind that it's neither possible nor intelligent to share all games across a portable and home console. first, it would only be possible by limiting the graphics to handheld level, making the console meaningless. Second, it would be stupid because it devalues both platforms. whoever has one won't like buying the other to essentially play the same games on the go/big screen.

The most logical thing is sharing the big multyplayer titles like mario kart, smash bros, animal crossing and splatoon, just like smash for wii u and 3ds (but easier due to same architeture and smaller gap in power) as well as most 2d/smaller titles that look similar regardless of being on a home console or handheld, like 2d mario, metroid, zelda, kirby, fire emblem... But both platforms would need big exclusives to increase their value.

the home console would get a 3d mario like 60/galaxy, a bigger and more detailed 3d zelda, 3d metroid, f-zero, star fox...

the handheld could have a 3d mario like 3d land/world, a simpler 3d zelda, pokemon...

All the shared games shoulçd have crossbuy and cross multiplyer. Now that's a good and possible strategy.



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Luke888 said:
keep in mind PS4 hardware will be at least 3 years old when NX comes out so it isn't impossible for Nintendo to make a powerful console that still is slightly better than PS4.
I'll buy NX as far as the console is more powerfull than Wii U (except if it's an handheld for obvius reasons). that said I would buy it regardless of the power if they release on it the next Metroid game that sounds really likely.

All of that said the two games we know are speculated to come to NX are DQ11 and FF14, now DQ11 runs on UE4 but there's also the handheld possibility so it's a 50/50 FF14 on the other hand only released on home consoles so it's likely that NX will be at least more powerfull than PS3/Wii U

it isn't impossible that nintendo makes a console makes a console just a little stronger than ps4, but all logic points to wii u successor being much more powerfull than ps4 and release for $299. remember this.



Avro1958 said:
I still think it's a mistake to release a new platform when we have not even reached the halfway point of this current gen. This is the main reason I will not buy another Nintendo console, I love the games but I will not support this practice. If the industry continues with 7-8 years between console releases then this would put the NX at 6 years when we see a NX2 should they go ahead and release a console at or around the same time as Sony and MS. Nintendo just needed to focus on 1st party games for a few more years but now they have tossed a wrench into Console release windows and pulled a little bit of a Sega move abandoning the WiiU so quickly.

The WiiU does not need "specs" to be good, it has the game library to be great, it won't matter how powerful a system they have if they continue to ignore that fact. I also can't remember the last time someone bought a Nintendo product for 3rd party games.

lol, 4 years after the beggining of the generation is just a little earlier than normal to release a new console. and you'll be very dissapointed if you think ps4 and x1 can last 7-8 years. those consoles only have hardware to last 5, maaaaybe 6 years before a successor releases, but nintendo will force them to go earlier.



rolltide101x said:
I expect the next Nintendo console to be 200$ day 1 and about as powerful as an XBOne

expect people to laugh at you... a lot.



Scisca said:
I want a console somewhat more powerful than the PS4. Just to play games with the same quality of graphics at 1080p/60fps. That would make NX my go-to console and I'd wait to purchase PS4 and Xbone till they drop to $199. Releasing 3 years after PS4 should be long enough to make a slightly better console at a similar price. If it's a yet another handicapped console, I won't buy it till its late and cheap days. I'm not interested in old tech.

Sure, they could release a console slightly more powerfull than a ps4 for $199 in 2016, but it's far more probable that it retails for $299 while being way more powerfull than ps4.



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JRPGfan said:

Nintendo has the chance to make sure the chip inside their next console is 14-16nm with FinFETs technology (3D transistors that cut power usage by 50% or so). Compaired to the 28nm chips both the Xbox One & PS4 use.

Nintendo also has the option to use Hybrid Memory Cube techonogly (many times more bandwidth than GDDR5, and lower power consumption).

Nintendo just need to make sure they design the chip right.
Small and cheap, 16nm FinFETs with HMC tech, that ends up slightly faster than a PS4.

Prey they dont spend 100$ on the f***ing gamepad.

(this is the main opstical, how cheap are they willing / able to make their gamepad, the cheaper the better).

(its not viable to use 100$ on a controller when the competiton is useing like 15$, and release a console that performs the same at the same price)

why do you mention something that never happened? cry all you want, the gamepad was never that expensive.



Soundwave said:

I don't expect anything major. What I would do would be something different but what I expect Nintendo to do is a 300 GFLOP-ish portable device that is something new and different. Perhaps it can also stream to the TV itself for people who don't really care that much about graphics. 

Then it will maybe have a higher end console version of that that's maybe 700 GFLOPS (2x+) or something for people who want slightly better graphics. Hardware split will be 4:1 in favor of the portable wunder-machine.  

Third party support will largely be current 3DS and Vita support mixed into one, with some PS4/XB1 ports, the less graphically heavy games that are possible. And it will run Android apps on a custom Nintendo OS, like Blackberry does. And Nintendo will take a small cut/fee for these Android games. 

Keep in mind most Nintendo teams have just only made 1 HD game using the Wii U thus far, Sony/MS had 6-7 years with the PS3/360, I don't think Nintendo is really all that interested in jumping up a full hardware leap from Wii U when they've just only started with HD development.

"Sony/MS had 6-7 years with the PS3/360, I don't think Nintendo is really all that interested in jumping up a full hardware leap from Wii U when they've just only started with HD development. "

ha! nintendo did much better than anyone else when first started HD development and now they have the knowledge for that and shared architeture for their next handheld and home console. they keep advancing the hardware AND making more games in than this generation.



Scisca said:
zorg1000 said:


Except for the 50+ million 3DS that have been sold thus far.......we need to stop thinking of handheld & console as being completely separate devices since Nintendo has made it painfully clear they plan to integrate them into a single ecosystem.


Except that market is shrinking faster than the speed of sound and can no longer be viewed as a viable one long term. There is a reason why Sony has recently said there is no climate for a Vita 2. There is still a market for home consoles though and home consoles need to have some beef on 'em. With handheld market evaporating Nintendo cannot delegate itself into the role of a secondary option, lagging behind competition and begging for any sort of attention.

Yes, because sony is incompetent. there's always gonna be a big market for portables.



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StarOcean said:
I doubt it will beat the PS4 in performance, I think even wishing for it to beat the X1 is pushing it. Nintendo is just not interested in hardware power, unfortunately

It wouldn't be hard to beat the X1 in power if Nintendo keeps the $300 price-tag for the home form-factor.

Unless Nintendo doesn't go x86, then outperforming the X1 is a given, and matching the PS4 seems likely, especially if they go with a newer AMD APU that outperforms Jaguar.

Ps4 and x1 can retail for $199 by the end of 2016. for $299, wii u's successor will be much stronger than both and even for $199 it would still be a little stronger than ps4.



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