gatito said:
naruball said:
But you're arguing about something completely different than I am. I never talked about "man-hating/misandry". My point was very specific. Why fight cyeberbullying against women when it happens to men too? Such women may not be man haters, but they sure only care about their own gender. A fight should be against cyberbullying period. When you make it specifically about women, you've lost all support from me.
A fight should be about equal rights. LGBTQ people fight for marriage equality. I would never support a gay movement that wanted to change the law to punish companies harder if the boss calls one a gay slur. It should be a fight against verbal abuse in general.
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Well it might seem like it's selfish but then again, where's the men raising concern and taking action against such issue. I'm sure there's plenty of men being harassed online, why don't we all join and do something about it? Maybe we don't care or we don't think it's such a big deal, there must be a reason for it. And that's probably why these women aren't mentioning men in their online harassment speech.
Just because it's not affecting you it doesn't mean it's not real.
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Maybe I haven't been clear enough so far, but I'm afraid we're still arguing about different things.
If men start a movement called "online harassment of men": I won't support it
If gay men start a movement called "online harassment of gay men/LGBTQ people" : I won't support it
If any group starts a movement called "online harassment": I will.
Yes, it is a real problem but it not something that only women deal with, so why make it about women? If they want to fight, then they should fight "online harassment".
I have no problem with people who take no action. They don't feel like doing anything and that's fine. They may also think that it's not a big deal. Again, that's fine. But if you're gonna start a movement, don't exclude groups of people making it seem like you're the only ones affected.
