It's one thing to not have splitscreen in new IP because it's becoming less important as a main part of people's gaming activities. But it's another thing to remove it from a franchise that is known and loved partly for having splitscreen, just for the sake of what, making the game prettier?

Man, has resolution, textures, lighting and particlae effects really become that important that they are preferrable over a game mode people love? If Phil said "Halo 5 resolution is 900p because we needed to facilitate splitscreen." people would have said "Yay! Phil Spencer, the people's champion!" They would not be shouting "WTF Phil!?! Get rid of effing split screen, it's gotta be 1080p or no buy!"

People would probably be fine with split screen dropping you down to 30fps in order to carry the load. End of the day, people playing split screen are mostly doing it for funsies not doing it with their serious gameface on.

So this is just a continuation of the game industry in general getting us to pay more and receiving less.

Another Phil said this thread..

Another example on why we need a Phil said master thread.

so kids dont play games? College students? screw them?

These threads are useful for telling me who to ignore in the future. Thanks Philly

"With Halo 5, the team really wanted to focus on making that experience great, both visually on the screen that you're looking at, and all the systems in place. While I loved the split screen of Halo 1, obviously it was kind of how multiplayer in Halo was born, I think the team made a trade-off based on what they see happening in the market today and what they wanted to do with their game."

WOW SUCH DISHONESTY MUCH EVIL #FIREPHIL

The saying goes: If it at ain't broke don't fix it. < This pretty much aligns with local co-op.

This does not: Let's emphasize online gaming and neglect local co-op to the point that online works better for gamers. Because this generation has clearly taught us that online is the thing is broken, not local co-op.

I understand what he's saying, but it comes off as irresponsible and unapologetic on his part

I wonder how many people here would have even gotten Halo 5 if it did have split screen.

Is just me or is Phil starting to like, spiral out of control lately with his contradicting PR quotes?

First he says he hates exclusives, but his product has tomb raider for a year to itself.

Now all this other stuff about hating console wars, hoping vr isn't the future of gaming, local VS online co op.

I'll admit, he was good at hiding his real self for awhile but now he's starting to show his true colors.

Translation:

he hopes vr isn't the future of gaming cause they don't have a product to compete in that space.

he hates exclusives cause they're not getting any since Sony is killing it and taking them all for themselves.

He hates the console wars cause he's tired of ppl talking bad about Xbox and praising ps4 in the forums.

This is just a Microsoft sitting on the sidelines watching the champ (ps4) get all the glory and the super bowl ring and he's jealous.


Might sound a bit harsh, but that's what I see. Sony pulled the same shit last gen too and lost big.

But Sony learned and I'm sure Microsoft has too, and hopefully next gen will be a lot better for everyone involved.

Me in an instant. I'm an old school 33 year old gamer and my time with split screen co op halo campaign on the og Xbox, and even halo 3 on 360 is why I can't stand they took it out. 

Without it, to me, it's like the soul is gone. That was halo to me. Maybe you're just too young and can't understand it, or didn't get to experience it, but us old timers remember it well. 

I'm 31 and I do remember times when parents had no money to buy consoles so we went to local gameshop to play Goldeneye slip-screen after school. I also remember playing Gears co-op with friends and brother. Hell, remember who exciting it was to go on buy/rent a new music album back in the day when you didin't know nothing about it or the band beforehand? Now an ablum is leaked to internet before release and everything about everything is out there. Things change, maybe teens today prefer online since they've grown up playing like that?

Great memories indeed, but online co-op is so convenient these days I'll gladly be playing with all the screen to myself instead desperately trying to re-create the magic :) But look at us old geezers babbling in reminiscence...

As for your other post, I think your translation is way off, but whan can I do. We both see what we see. I did not see him saying he hates exclusives tho, I thought he was continuing his narrative about focusing on 1st party instead of 3rd. As for Tomb Raider, yeah I don't like these deals but you know, it's business and sometimes you have to do something you personally disagree about because it's your job. And he is a CEO who talks about his personal views, I really appreciate ít myself.

No, Born in the early 90's.  My first experience with Halo was split screen. But I don't play split screen anymore because I have my own console now.