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OnlyForDisplay said:
Personally, while I do like the various ways VR can further increase a gaming experience, I do not see it as a viable permanent solution to the traditional style of gaming. Keyboard/mouse and controller most likely is going to be the mainstay for the foreseeable future.


You can use the controller without looking at it.

Its staying, and will work fine with a VR headset.



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I hope he is right, mostly because i can't use it



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Yeah I'm surprised lol - if it is MS is massively behind.

A true fan of tech shouldn't care because whatever the future is, it will be the future because it is better than the past (in general).



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DirtyP2002 said:
HollyGamer said:
DirtyP2002 said:
Normchacho said:


I never really got how you would use AR for gaming...I mean, the game world would be limited by the space you're physically in.


Forza Vista in your living room for example.
Get your RPG character standing next to you while you check your armor, weapons or whatever
Make the whole wall your screen
Use your coffee table as a board for a map editor or forge mode in Halo
Call tactics in madden / Fifa / NHL / NBA on a pitch in front of you

And that is just what came to my mind in the first 4 minutes.

AR  for casual and familly games, VR in other hand for immersive experience and hardcore and mainstream games period.


What has this to do with casual / hardcore?

VR as it is now, is like a giant screen in front of you.
AR seems like an evolution or the next step above VR.

But we are still losing the main point: Porn will be great on AR!

With your logic, if Master chief coming out from your TV and save the day by shooting your table and furniture is more hardcore and mainstream then when you were on Master Chief world and becoming him self and save the day, is fine by me.  Mean while general consensus will say the other way arround.  AR when it's finish with the development will not imitate HOLODECK from Starwars (it will not even close to what Micrisoft Promise with their Hollolens Ad on youtube

Mean while VR for gamer, people already new the limitation and understand it will not like in the matris or scifi movie , and they already fully embrace the limitations. So for now what i understand from your view of point is that " I want Microsoft to be succes while SONY to be the Loser here " lol,  I am my self jealous with Holo deck, but i like and want Microsoft success.  AR and VR is different and both trying to be different, i like casual gaming and hardcore gaming both and they can co exist together. So if you smart you will support both , not because VR is SONY and AR is Microsoft.



All of Microsoft wishes a lot of things these days, mostly cause every product they make is getting stomped by someone or another.



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TheObserver said:
All of Microsoft wishes a lot of things these days, mostly cause every product they make is getting stomped by someone or another.


But that doesn't mean the products are worse. That said, Windows is still by far market leader, doesn't make it the best os out there.



Hey, just a quick VR update here for anyone who's interested. The Oculus CEO said today that the Rift will cost "At least $300".

I don't know about you, but that's a lower number than I would have expected them to go with. Mostly because I have honestly been expecting the Rift to cost at or near $500. Even if the Rift comes in at $399, that's a totally reasonable price for the HMD and what it comes bundled with (the sensor, the controller, ect.). It also makes me think that $299 more PSVR may even be a bit higher than what we'll actually see as a starting price.

I say this because PSVR should be cheaper than the Rift. It has a lower resolution screen, it doesn't have the magnetometer than the Rift has, it doesn't come with any audio as far as I'm aware, you've almost certainly be able to get it without the PS Camera or any controllers. I mean, it does have the separate unit that splits the image, but I can't imagine that will outweigh the costs of all of those other things.

Anyways, seeing as we don't really have a PSVR or VR thread, this seemed like a good place to post this.



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After thinking about this more. The fact that Phil had to downplay it tells they (Microsoft gaming) thinks it's going to be big. This is just preemptive damage control.

Then again being one of the few people who has experienced VR I see it as the future of gaming. It truly takes gaming somewhere new, feels fresh, and creates new experience that has truly drawn out the inner child in me that most modern gaming has not,

It doesn't matter which device it was: Aperturel, Morpheus, or even Occulus. They all provided amazing experiences that made me wanting more. I too was a skeptic, but once you've had your first good VR experience, I think many of the naysayers will be hooked.



Protendo said:

After thinking about this more. The fact that Phil had to downplay it tells they (Microsoft gaming) think it's going to be big. This is just preemptive damage control.

Then again being one of the few people who has experience VR I see it as the future of gaming. It truly takes gaming somewhere new, feels fresh, and creates new experience that has truly drawn out the inner child in me that most modern gaming has not,

It doesn't matter which device it was: Aperturel, Morpheus, or even Occulus. They all provided amazing experiences that made me wanting more. I too was a skeptic, but once you've had your first good VR experience, I think many of the naysayers will be hooked.


Maybe, I think he was being honest when he said he hopes it's not the future. But I do think it has more to do with MS not wanting to get caught with it's pants down than it does with the actual tech or experience itself.

I am 100% with you on having a good VR experience. I was a pretty big skeptic of VR when Oculus first showed up, but after having a really good VR experience I'm sold. I'm just waiting to see what the support will be like, and how much they'll cost.



Bet with Adamblaziken:

I bet that on launch the Nintendo Switch will have no built in in-game voice chat. He bets that it will. The winner gets six months of avatar control over the other user.

HollyGamer said:
DirtyP2002 said:
HollyGamer said:
DirtyP2002 said:
Normchacho said:


I never really got how you would use AR for gaming...I mean, the game world would be limited by the space you're physically in.


Forza Vista in your living room for example.
Get your RPG character standing next to you while you check your armor, weapons or whatever
Make the whole wall your screen
Use your coffee table as a board for a map editor or forge mode in Halo
Call tactics in madden / Fifa / NHL / NBA on a pitch in front of you

And that is just what came to my mind in the first 4 minutes.

AR  for casual and familly games, VR in other hand for immersive experience and hardcore and mainstream games period.


What has this to do with casual / hardcore?

VR as it is now, is like a giant screen in front of you.
AR seems like an evolution or the next step above VR.

But we are still losing the main point: Porn will be great on AR!

With your logic, if Master chief coming out from your TV and save the day by shooting your table and furniture is more hardcore and mainstream then when you were on Master Chief world and becoming him self and save the day, is fine by me.  Mean while general consensus will say the other way arround.  AR when it's finish with the development will not imitate HOLODECK from Starwars (it will not even close to what Micrisoft Promise with their Hollolens Ad on youtube

Mean while VR for gamer, people already new the limitation and understand it will not like in the matris or scifi movie , and they already fully embrace the limitations. So for now what i understand from your view of point is that " I want Microsoft to be succes while SONY to be the Loser here " lol,  I am my self jealous with Holo deck, but i like and want Microsoft success.  AR and VR is different and both trying to be different, i like casual gaming and hardcore gaming both and they can co exist together. So if you smart you will support both , not because VR is SONY and AR is Microsoft.


My logic? WTF is wrong with you?

I never said anything about one being more casual or hardcore than the other one.
You were the one making that claim.

I think both will have games that will benefit from it, I just like the AR more because it looks cooler to me.
This has nothing to do with Sony / MS either. I might get Occulus Rift if VR turns out to be the new hotness. I doubt it though.

I will get AR anyway, because of the non-gaming stuff (read: porn). Well if it turns out to be ridiculously overpriced I might have to wait.



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