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Soundwave said:
fleischr said:

 

Nintendo handheld is a console. 

Nintendo's handhelds became basically consoles a while ago, Nintendo has to put as much development resources into them and they now require all the same games, and the next one is going to have Wii U level power (give or take?)?

That's a console. Development resources don't magically change just because the system goes into your pocket. The days when Nintendo could just treat the portable like some little brother device with 1-2 games every 8 months and then put out a Pokemon are long over. 

I predict the portable NX is likely the heart of the NX line, the "console" will actually be the "kid brother"/companion device going forward, the portable is going to be the main star of the show and its chipset will be the basis of the console to allow for easy sharing of games. The portable is the sun of the NX universe in other words, everything else orbits around it. 

3DS killed most/all Wii development too and slowed Wii U dev, lets remember that. There seems to be this impression that Nintendo can just toss together a portable and fart it out to the market with little/no effort ... no chance. A handheld launch from Nintendo now requires the same effort/time/care as a "console", because the handheld line is basically a console. 

I'm with you that NX is a handheld - probably at WiiU levels of power. Creating games at the AAA-level of PS4/X1 require a vastly larger scale of technological resources  and in manpower. I don't think Nintendo's right there just yet - so that rules out a new home console. However, they know the technical boundries of WiiU-like hardware, so that's probably where they go approximately for a handheld.

Where you and I may differ is how well WiiU-NX porting goes.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

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Mummelmann said:
maxleresistant said:
I remember when I was having arguments with people saying the WiiU would sell 30millions, and I was like "nope, not even 20".
Fun times, I wonder where those are now.


And I remember 240 million lifetime for the Wii U and quite a few cheering this sort of posts on...

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=166018&page=-1#1


That is just beautiful.

I mean I'm a Nintendo fan, I own a WiiU, but frankly, I knew at E3 2012 that sales would not go well. First party support was weak, No new franchises from Nintendo, No big AAA, most games were just HD sequels and didn't bring much innovations to their franchises. Third party support consisted of ports from old games...

Nobody knew what the wiiU was, the marketing was awful. I mean every clues were right there in front of everybody. This was doomed from the start



Playstation_prophet said:
WiiU will never reach 20 million.

He also says, "Xbox One will reach 100, 110 million". I'm not joking, lol.

This is my question, if 95% of this forum knows these numbers aren't possible, how does the person that does this for a living not know.

Everytime I see something from him, it's way off. I don't get it.


It will be lucky to reach 15. Smash and Kart didn't do anything so their last hope is a huge price cut.




Pachter says: Everytime you make a thread about him, its an extra troll laugh he will have at your expense.

Ignore him.



15 million absolute max. Lucky to get that far. They'd need Zelda U to be one of the greatest games of all time to achieve that. And even then it probably wouldn't cos I bet it's gonna be an NX launch title.



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LOL

Yeah, it's going to virtually double its total sales while Nintendo prepare to kill it off next year. :|



Mmm, this holidays won't be good (I don't think Mario Tennis, the AnimalCrossingPartyWithAmiibos and Xenoblade are going to be big sellers) maybe it will reach 12-12.5 million by the end of the year. Next year has Pokken, Zelda and Starfox, but Nintendo will show it's next console, so I think that it will be lucky if it reaches 15-16 million lt.



chidori-chan2 said:
Playstation_prophet said:
WiiU will never reach 20 million.

He also says, "Xbox One will reach 100, 110 million". I'm not joking, lol.

This is my question, if 95% of this forum knows these numbers aren't possible, how does the person that does this for a living not know.

Everytime I see something from him, it's way off. I don't get it.


It will be lucky to reach 15. Smash and Kart didn't do anything so their last hope is a huge price cut.

 

Not just a huge price, but a

149.99$ kind of HUGE pricecut.