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Playstation_prophet on 22 September 2015

Does Phil Spencer talk more about PS4 than Xbox One or is it me?



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LudicrousSpeed on 22 September 2015
d21lewis said:
This thread isn't about the Xbox price of whatever. I'm just going to babble for a minute.

People see what they want to see. I remember last gen when the PS3 was $600 and the 360 was like $400 or less. I argued that, for a gamer with $450, they could walk into a store and walk out with an Xbox and a game and go home and play it. People said "For the PlayStation experience, you had to add in the price of an HD DVD player, Gold, a wireless router, etc."

Then, after Sony began cutting feature after feature, they still argued that it wasn't a price cut! That it was deleting

I'll finish this later. Gotta go. Sex time!





CosmicSex on 23 September 2015
Playstation_prophet said:
Does Phil Spencer talk more about PS4 than Xbox One or is it me?

Wow I know what you mean.  But then again, people love the click bait so its impossible to know ecactly what they aren't reporting.  



Playstation_prophet on 24 September 2015

Did he have any news on Gran Turismo or Last of Us 2?



ils411 on 24 September 2015
Hiku said:
jason1637 said:

Well dance central launched last year and i think some other few niche titles. ALso when microsoft updates the bone they always add kinect support for those who bought it. Okay it might not be the standard any more but saying the xbox one got a $150 pprice cut is wrong becayse all that ahppened is a an unbundle and a $50 price cut.

By whatever name you wish to call it, when a price cut occurs, it comes at the expense of the manufacturare, and it's something they would rather avoid if possible. If Sony thought that staying on $399 forever with PS4 would earn them the most money when all is said and done, they would.
When Microsoft made Kinect optional, that also lost them money. They had pre arranged agreements with manufacturers that were based on the amount of Kinect units they expected to sell. And they expected to sell a lot more, because the plan was to keep Kinect standard. They took a financial loss to offer the Kinectless version to consumers. But it's a decision that will earn them more in the long run, like any price cut that goes according to plan.

Its not really relevant. MS absorbing more lose due to unbudnling the kinect doesn't translate to it being a price cut.

MS decided to offer a non-kincet sku at $399.00. If MS will lose more money or not, it holds no bearing as it is still not a price cut. It is simply a new sku with a new price point.

The only price cut is the $50.00 cut which brings the price price points to

1. xboxone with kinect - $449

2. xboxone only - $349.00

If there was really a $150 price cut than the oriignal sku, which is the xbox with kinect bundle, should now be $349.00, which is not the case.

Spin it all you want, there has only been one price cut and that is the $50.00 cut on all skus. 

I challenge anyone to prove that there was a $150.00 price cut.

xboxone with kinect now - $449.00

add back the so called $150.00 price cut and we get

$599.00 and is not equal to the original price point of $499.00

And yes, this is the base of it all and not the knectless sku.

MS losing more money due to unbundling, again, has no relevance to this as it is their strategy...or lack of one.. 



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UltimateGamer1982 on 24 September 2015

Pretty impressive Xbox launched at $500 not even two years ago and is already done to $349. If another price cut happens this holiday, it'll be seriously close to the current price of the 360, a 10! year old console.

Meanwhile, PS4 has yet to have a price cut and is still currently selling as it's launch price. Crazy stuff this gen. Totally the opposite of last gen.




binary solo on 24 September 2015
ArchangelMadzz said:
There was no price competition last holiday, Xbox One was basically being given away in the US xD

But it'd be weird if they didn't have a price cut this holiday, not because they need to but because going more than 24 months without a pricecut in unreal.

Unless you're Nintendo, was it 3 years before Wii's first price cut?



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CosmicSex on 24 September 2015
UltimateGamer1982 said:
Pretty impressive Xbox launched at $500 not even two years ago and is already done to $349. If another price cut happens this holiday, it'll be seriously close to the current price of the 360, a 10! year old console.

Meanwhile, PS4 has yet to have a price cut and is still currently selling as it's launch price. Crazy stuff this gen. Totally the opposite of last gen.


The true truth is that the PS3 made the Xbox 360 sell more by being overpriced during a recession. The PS4 doesn't need a price cut. It just has to be attainable.  And a price cut would only make the PS4 more attainable.  Phil Spencer better hope the PS4 doesn't get cheaper. 



UltimateGamer1982 on 24 September 2015
CosmicSex said:
UltimateGamer1982 said:
Pretty impressive Xbox launched at $500 not even two years ago and is already done to $349. If another price cut happens this holiday, it'll be seriously close to the current price of the 360, a 10! year old console.

Meanwhile, PS4 has yet to have a price cut and is still currently selling as it's launch price. Crazy stuff this gen. Totally the opposite of last gen.


The true truth is that the PS3 made the Xbox 360 sell more by being overpriced during a recession. The PS4 doesn't need a price cut. It just has to be attainable.  And a price cut would only make the PS4 more attainable.  Phil Spencer better hope the PS4 doesn't get cheaper. 

The only way Xbox wins this holiday is if Microsoft drops the price by another $50-100 like last year. Which is probably what they'll do with Sony having that COD bundle. 

 

I could actually see Xbox being as low as $249 this black Friday. I remember last year with all the promos and rebates, ppl were effectively getting an Xbox one for $299 I believe. 

 

Not sure if Microsoft is willing to go to such extremes again, but if they do, I could see them winning November or at least coming very close. 



smroadkill15 on 24 September 2015

Xbox never had a $150 price cut! If anyone thought about it for more than a second they would figure it out, but I guess not.