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Can Trump nail his appearance in the Colbert show?

Trump never looks good anywhere. 50 28.57%
 
Sure, the guy has a sense of humor. 46 26.29%
 
Colbert will go easy on h... 22 12.57%
 
I can't fucking care less. 18 10.29%
 
Colbert will mop the floo... 39 22.29%
 
Total:175
generic-user-1 on 13 September 2015
HEMSTAR said:
Colbert is gonna destroy him.

he will not realy hurt him, why should he? trump is the lesser of two evils policy wise, he is good for colberts business and he will not win the next election anyway.



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pokoko on 13 September 2015
DonFerrari said:
pokoko said:

My excuse for not being as rich as Donald Trump?  I'm not saying I would have made nearly as much money in the same situation but don't you think being born the son of a New York real estate mogul helped him be a bit more successful than your average person?  I mean, inheriting millions to start with is kind of important.


Sure it helped being a bit more... but was he just a bit more successful than other people that inherited as much?

How much have your parents invested or will leave to you? Do you think you can grow it by how much?

You said "what's your excuse" for not being a billionare, as though everyone was starting off with a level playing field.  That's obviously not even close to being true, not by any stretch of the imagination.  It takes money to make money--I know, as I've owned two store-front businesses--and Trump starting off with millions in assets and his father's business gives him a massive edge when compared to the average person.  That's an iron-clad fact.  The "what's your excuse" line was silly.



pokoko on 13 September 2015
SamuelRSmith said:
pokoko said:

My excuse for not being as rich as Donald Trump?  I'm not saying I would have made nearly as much money in the same situation but don't you think being born the son of a New York real estate mogul helped him be a bit more successful than your average person?  I mean, inheriting millions to start with is kind of important.

Donald Trump inherited somewhere between $40m-$200m. He is now worth somewhere between $2bn and $10bn. That's an increase of between 10* and 250*. Wild numbers, sure... but the vast majority of people who come into large sums of money either through inheritance, or winning lotteries/bets or professional sports or whatever just squander the crap out of it.

Donald's the sort of guy who would have made it no matter what. Whatever he is, it isn't an idiot.

I think you quoted the wrong person.  I didn't say he was an idiot.



DonFerrari on 13 September 2015
generic-user-1 said:
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:

yes there are realy selfmade billionairs, but trump isnt one of those, he inherited alot of money and connections.

and a brandname isnt a real asset, he could destroy it every day with a wrong comment, thats not a stable asset. he has under 1 billion in real assets, the rest is just the brand.   he couldnt finance his own election campaigne if he would run a normal campaigne.

 

and 500k worth in normal middleclass assets isnt much, and most of it is very illiquide or needed to cover retirement.

first staaawks will be sold, than other assets and in the end the house. there will be not much left if they die at a normal age.  and im totaly fine with that, why shouldnt they use all the wealth they created till the end?


Yes he inherited... care to show evidence of how many in similar situation improved their worth similarly?

Why would anyone finance their own elections? Most investors and rich people became rich because they use other people money to finance their dreams and them after returning the interest rip the profit.

If a brandname isn't a real asset them you better call walllstreet, they have been making money the wrong way for like a century.

Well if you really think that inheriting a paid house can't make you milionaire, just because it won't be easy them you can't rule out he making multi-billionaire (or even billionaire if you want to discount all the rest of his worth)  starting milionaire, because it certainly isn't easy as well.

But sure, let's summarize the convo and just say he is a completely stupid person that only became rich because he had rich friends and inheritance.

he needs to finance his own election because he needs the super rich guy image to win it, and to be super rich because the trump brand is his biggest asset and he needs to play richie rich or the brand will die.

and yes, its easy to get realy rich if you inherit a well run big real estate company that has most of its assets in new york.

if he is stupid or a brilliant actor/conman? i dont know, i realy realy dont know, but he isnt a brilliant or even good business person, his company isnt well run and many people with a background like him have the same amount of money he has, if not more.

bloomberg made trump realy rich with his politics in nyc and the boom nyc saw after that, and his example could ruin trump, bloomberg invested just his own money, and run a huge campaigne in nyc, trump isnt able to finance such an campaigne nation wide, and taking money from other guys would destroy his chances to win.  atm he is ahead of everybody and spend the least amount of money, but that will change when the campaigne starts its next stage with the first primarys.


You think he needs... let's see to the end and if no one will donate to his campaigne... He may be richie rich for you, but I could be wrong, but are all his companies 100% owned by him without any shareholder?

Well if it's really easy to become bilionaire in similar circunstance, you certainly could provide a research about how many % of people that had previous generation worth between 20-100M became billionaires, right? Please show me the numers, many is very generic (there are many bilionaires, so everyone should be bilionaire?), I want statistic.

You first say he have a well run, and then say it isn't well run.

Have any campaign costed 10Billion? Perhaps he could, but would be utter silly.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

generic-user-1 on 13 September 2015
pokoko said:
DonFerrari said:


Sure it helped being a bit more... but was he just a bit more successful than other people that inherited as much?

How much have your parents invested or will leave to you? Do you think you can grow it by how much?

You said "what's your excuse" for not being a billionare, as though everyone was starting off with a level playing field.  That's obviously not even close to being true, not by any stretch of the imagination.  It takes money to make money--I know, as I've owned two store-front businesses--and Trump starting off with millions in assets and his father's business gives him a massive edge when compared to the average person.  That's an iron-clad fact.  The "what's your excuse" line was silly.

it was silly in the way he used it, but there are selfmade billionairs. from poor and middleclass background. bloomberg, gates, branson, they all started as middle class children.



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DonFerrari on 13 September 2015
pokoko said:
DonFerrari said:


Sure it helped being a bit more... but was he just a bit more successful than other people that inherited as much?

How much have your parents invested or will leave to you? Do you think you can grow it by how much?

You said "what's your excuse" for not being a billionare, as though everyone was starting off with a level playing field.  That's obviously not even close to being true, not by any stretch of the imagination.  It takes money to make money--I know, as I've owned two store-front businesses--and Trump starting off with millions in assets and his father's business gives him a massive edge when compared to the average person.  That's an iron-clad fact.  The "what's your excuse" line was silly.


Yes he started with a great edge agaisnt common folk, does that makes him making 20x of what he started become regular achievement?... so you started two bussiness, how have they went?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 13 September 2015
generic-user-1 said:
pokoko said:
DonFerrari said:


Sure it helped being a bit more... but was he just a bit more successful than other people that inherited as much?

How much have your parents invested or will leave to you? Do you think you can grow it by how much?

You said "what's your excuse" for not being a billionare, as though everyone was starting off with a level playing field.  That's obviously not even close to being true, not by any stretch of the imagination.  It takes money to make money--I know, as I've owned two store-front businesses--and Trump starting off with millions in assets and his father's business gives him a massive edge when compared to the average person.  That's an iron-clad fact.  The "what's your excuse" line was silly.

it was silly in the way he used it, but there are selfmade billionairs. from poor and middleclass background. bloomberg, gates, branson, they all started as middle class children.

The only way I put is that he isn't an imbecile as people like to think. He may not be genius, but I'm certain he is far more inteligent than average.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

sethnintendo on 13 September 2015
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
sethnintendo said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
spemanig said:

...Is that a joke?

he's just as capable of being owned as anyone

You just need a couple of declared bankrupties like Trump.

ok...not sure how that was relevant.  I'm not a Trump supporter I'm just saying Colbert isn't quite as adept at debate as some believe.  It could also happen if he attacked Bernie Sanders on his program to be fair.

Sorry that was a bad joke and I was apparently so drunk that I didn't even bother with spell check.  I need to keep myself off the internet after I have more than 6 beers.



generic-user-1 on 13 September 2015
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:

yes there are realy selfmade billionairs, but trump isnt one of those, he inherited alot of money and connections.

and a brandname isnt a real asset, he could destroy it every day with a wrong comment, thats not a stable asset. he has under 1 billion in real assets, the rest is just the brand.   he couldnt finance his own election campaigne if he would run a normal campaigne.

 

and 500k worth in normal middleclass assets isnt much, and most of it is very illiquide or needed to cover retirement.

first staaawks will be sold, than other assets and in the end the house. there will be not much left if they die at a normal age.  and im totaly fine with that, why shouldnt they use all the wealth they created till the end?


Yes he inherited... care to show evidence of how many in similar situation improved their worth similarly?

Why would anyone finance their own elections? Most investors and rich people became rich because they use other people money to finance their dreams and them after returning the interest rip the profit.

If a brandname isn't a real asset them you better call walllstreet, they have been making money the wrong way for like a century.

Well if you really think that inheriting a paid house can't make you milionaire, just because it won't be easy them you can't rule out he making multi-billionaire (or even billionaire if you want to discount all the rest of his worth)  starting milionaire, because it certainly isn't easy as well.

But sure, let's summarize the convo and just say he is a completely stupid person that only became rich because he had rich friends and inheritance.

he needs to finance his own election because he needs the super rich guy image to win it, and to be super rich because the trump brand is his biggest asset and he needs to play richie rich or the brand will die.

and yes, its easy to get realy rich if you inherit a well run big real estate company that has most of its assets in new york.

if he is stupid or a brilliant actor/conman? i dont know, i realy realy dont know, but he isnt a brilliant or even good business person, his company isnt well run and many people with a background like him have the same amount of money he has, if not more.

bloomberg made trump realy rich with his politics in nyc and the boom nyc saw after that, and his example could ruin trump, bloomberg invested just his own money, and run a huge campaigne in nyc, trump isnt able to finance such an campaigne nation wide, and taking money from other guys would destroy his chances to win.  atm he is ahead of everybody and spend the least amount of money, but that will change when the campaigne starts its next stage with the first primarys.


You think he needs... let's see to the end and if no one will donate to his campaigne... He may be richie rich for you, but I could be wrong, but are all his companies 100% owned by him without any shareholder?

Well if it's really easy to become bilionaire in similar circunstance, you certainly could provide a research about how many % of people that had previous generation worth between 20-100M became billionaires, right? Please show me the numers, many is very generic (there are many bilionaires, so everyone should be bilionaire?), I want statistic.

You first say he have a well run, and then say it isn't well run.

Have any campaign costed 10Billion? Perhaps he could, but would be utter silly.

he inherited a well run realestate business with alot of assets in NYC.  if he did nothing and let other people run all, he would have as much hard assets as he has today(or even more). its not so well run today it looks like, other realestate companys made alot more profit in the last 15 years.

and he couldnt finance a campaign because he doenst have the money, his worth isnt wealth, its a image, not more. he cant sell the trump name for 10b dollar or 100m dollar because it cant be sold.



DonFerrari on 13 September 2015
generic-user-1 said:
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:

he needs to finance his own election because he needs the super rich guy image to win it, and to be super rich because the trump brand is his biggest asset and he needs to play richie rich or the brand will die.

and yes, its easy to get realy rich if you inherit a well run big real estate company that has most of its assets in new york.

if he is stupid or a brilliant actor/conman? i dont know, i realy realy dont know, but he isnt a brilliant or even good business person, his company isnt well run and many people with a background like him have the same amount of money he has, if not more.

bloomberg made trump realy rich with his politics in nyc and the boom nyc saw after that, and his example could ruin trump, bloomberg invested just his own money, and run a huge campaigne in nyc, trump isnt able to finance such an campaigne nation wide, and taking money from other guys would destroy his chances to win.  atm he is ahead of everybody and spend the least amount of money, but that will change when the campaigne starts its next stage with the first primarys.


You think he needs... let's see to the end and if no one will donate to his campaigne... He may be richie rich for you, but I could be wrong, but are all his companies 100% owned by him without any shareholder?

Well if it's really easy to become bilionaire in similar circunstance, you certainly could provide a research about how many % of people that had previous generation worth between 20-100M became billionaires, right? Please show me the numers, many is very generic (there are many bilionaires, so everyone should be bilionaire?), I want statistic.

You first say he have a well run, and then say it isn't well run.

Have any campaign costed 10Billion? Perhaps he could, but would be utter silly.

he inherited a well run realestate business with alot of assets in NYC.  if he did nothing and let other people run all, he would have as much hard assets as he has today(or even more). its not so well run today it looks like, other realestate companys made alot more profit in the last 15 years.

and he couldnt finance a campaign because he doenst have the money, his worth isnt wealth, its a image, not more. he cant sell the trump name for 10b dollar or 100m dollar because it cant be sold.

Other real state, ok, in average with all companies he made more or less? And sure the company could have been worst than before, I don't follow his news, but you are assuming them that on average 100M would turn 1B in 15 years?

And why gave you skipped all else?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."