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DonFerrari on 12 September 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:


And you are ignoring that everybody here have safely used the phone underwater and that there were cases of bad use that led to faulty systems?? So the advise may be in that direction or you are just happy that you have an opportunity to bash Sony?

When it comes to Sony outside of Playstation, I get PLENTY of opportunities to bash them. :-p

Seriously though, I'm not bashing Sony. You're just sensitive to criticism towards Sony. Your bias is much stronger than any I have.

Bottom line, its not the underwater friendly device Sony has lead people to believe. According to the article the support page was updated because people were using the phone as advertised.

Me? I don't care much about criticism about Sony.

If you want to say how bad they have managed the company for like 10 years it's good.

If you talk about their computers being overpriced it's fine.

If you want to say they done a bad strategy with PS3 it's great.

But when you are trying to make a false claim it isn't ok. The phone works undewater and have been working for like 3 years? Several cases of people here that have working with it in this situation and some cases online of broken phones... Sony is advising people not to do something they advertise, I get it (and it sounds phish... well tabacco sellers have to advertise a product and them put disclaimers on the box =]), but they are not forbidding nor denying coverage. So you are pushing it to make it seems worst then it's.



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aLkaLiNE on 12 September 2015

LudicrousSpeed said:

 Not surprised to see the defending of it, either. Pretty blatant false advertising. The phones are obviously not built to be used underwater with enough consistency.

Its equally not surprising to see an overwhelming amount of users that are platform specific to Microsoft posting in here. Just an observation.

 

What about the advertisement is false, btw? Various users on here have confirmed its waterproof. It has a certified waterproof rating from an external agency. The variable here is on the user end, funny how that works 



LudicrousSpeed on 13 September 2015
aLkaLiNE said:

LudicrousSpeed said:

 Not surprised to see the defending of it, either. Pretty blatant false advertising. The phones are obviously not built to be used underwater with enough consistency.

Its equally not surprising to see an overwhelming amount of users that are platform specific to Microsoft posting in here. Just an observation.

 

What about the advertisement is false, btw? Various users on here have confirmed its waterproof. It has a certified waterproof rating from an external agency. The variable here is on the user end, funny how that works 

When you have such a ludicrous title, it's bound to draw all sorts of people.

I got the platinum in Skyrim on PS3 with no glitches or game breaking bugs. I guess this means all the BS about Bethesda games is wrong? According to your logic, it must be.

Or maybe I was just lucky with a faulty product, kind of like the "various forum users" here. And apparently someone should look into this external agency, they seem to be handing out waterproof ratings to devices that are in fact not waterproof. Or, as the article says, maybe the products got these ratings in laboratory conditions with the phones in standby mode, rather than what marketing shown. Funny how that works. No point in me saying anything else on the matter, Sony is telling people don't do it. I don't think they'd do that if there wasn't an issue :)



Mr Puggsly on 13 September 2015
DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:


And you are ignoring that everybody here have safely used the phone underwater and that there were cases of bad use that led to faulty systems?? So the advise may be in that direction or you are just happy that you have an opportunity to bash Sony?

When it comes to Sony outside of Playstation, I get PLENTY of opportunities to bash them. :-p

Seriously though, I'm not bashing Sony. You're just sensitive to criticism towards Sony. Your bias is much stronger than any I have.

Bottom line, its not the underwater friendly device Sony has lead people to believe. According to the article the support page was updated because people were using the phone as advertised.

But when you are trying to make a false claim it isn't ok. The phone works undewater and have been working for like 3 years? Several cases of people here that have working with it in this situation and some cases online of broken phones... Sony is advising people not to do something they advertise, I get it (and it sounds phish... well tabacco sellers have to advertise a product and them put disclaimers on the box =]), but they are not forbidding nor denying coverage. So you are pushing it to make it seems worst then it's.

Fine, lets just agree Sony is as bad as tobacco companies.



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Normchacho on 13 September 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:


And you are ignoring that everybody here have safely used the phone underwater and that there were cases of bad use that led to faulty systems?? So the advise may be in that direction or you are just happy that you have an opportunity to bash Sony?

When it comes to Sony outside of Playstation, I get PLENTY of opportunities to bash them. :-p

Seriously though, I'm not bashing Sony. You're just sensitive to criticism towards Sony. Your bias is much stronger than any I have.

Bottom line, its not the underwater friendly device Sony has lead people to believe. According to the article the support page was updated because people were using the phone as advertised.

But when you are trying to make a false claim it isn't ok. The phone works undewater and have been working for like 3 years? Several cases of people here that have working with it in this situation and some cases online of broken phones... Sony is advising people not to do something they advertise, I get it (and it sounds phish... well tabacco sellers have to advertise a product and them put disclaimers on the box =]), but they are not forbidding nor denying coverage. So you are pushing it to make it seems worst then it's.

Fine, lets just agree Sony is as bad as tobacco companies.

ugh...Puggsly really? Why? Not even the comparison between Sony and tobacco companies, but the awful nit-picky deflection...Why? Why? WHY?!?!?

It's that kind of garbage that makes the internet such a shit place for real debate. You're normally better than that.



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generic-user-1 on 13 September 2015
DonFerrari said:
generic-user-1 said:
DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

They advertised its ability to be underwater... but tell people not to do it?

You don't see an issue there?


Yes... like those cars that can do 200mph but are advised to be used under 70mph.

thats just BS, the roads and drivers in some countrys are just so bad that they shouldnt drive above 70 mph.

there arent that many cars that can drive 200mph, and i guess it isnt realy fun, you get very tired if you drive more than 130mph.

and i never seen any advice in a car or from a car maker that said it should be used under 70mph.  that comes from government of countrys with bad drivers and bad roads, and its quite usefull for those countrys


There is still a lot of cars that drive at 130mph, double the max limit in most countries...

And several cars that go from 130-200mph should have the advise because there is severe wear on the car and absurd amount of money to fix them.

All my cars had this advice on the Manual (have you ever read the manual of your car), about safe speed, following rules and not going to the max speed, etc

yeah in most countrys streets and drivers suck hard, realy realy hard. thats why they arent allowed to drive in a moderate speed or fast.

and what car has those advises? the capping at 155mph is bad but an advice to not drive normal travelspeed? thats just retarded



nanorazor on 13 September 2015

So much delusional people out there. Sony doing this right now is bad, this is false advertising. Sony is NOT as bad as tobacco companies. Other Companies doing the same thing should be criticized and downplayed as well. Sony Electronic Division was always 50/50 about quality management, their products are really good while can be really flawed. Sony marketing team needs to improve



antigin on 13 September 2015

I use Tablet Z in my bath from the release date (more than 2 years now). I wash it time to time under the water tap.
The same with Z3 Compact. I do not use it in bath, but rarely wash it under tap. Bought it almost a year ago (at release day also).
All devices work fine.



Teeqoz on 13 September 2015
Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:


Don't know how is the ads for cars in your country, but in mine a lot of them are breaking law, driving unsafely, etc... and have advise to not do the same either on the propaganda or in the manual, do you know that?

Okay... this is more of a debate about functionality versus safety.

All cars are great for being reckless, we see that regularly.

Sony marketed this phone as the under water phone, a feature most phones are not designed for. The marketing tells consumers, "Anyone looking for a phone that works under water, get this phone." The marketing doesn't say "keep out of water!"

Maybe the phone should have been marketed for being more water proof than most phones. That would be a different and less interesting market campaign, but also not misleading.


Do you honestly think that Sony intentionally mislead their customers? Just take some time to consider the evidence:

Exhibit A) They have been replacing phones that got broken by water damage.

Exhibit B) After they updated their page, they haven't aired a commercial showcasing the phones ability to work underwater.

Exhibit C) Multiple owners report that their phones can handle bring used in the same fashion as in the commercials for perfectly fine.

 

Don't you think it's more likely that their phones just might have been a little less waterproof than they thought, and the result was that Sony had to replace more phones than they considered acceptable, thus they decided to not focus on that in any future commercials, and they updated their support page?

There's a pretty big goddamn difference between intentionally and unintentionally misleading your customers.



taus90 on 13 September 2015

my z2 gets plenty of underwater action. but you have make sure all the ports are sealed properly. so in short its not false advertising if the phone does have that capability, but sony choose to advise against it. Z series is waterproof, its just not waterproof with stupid people.