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Frenchie from Normandy here(y'know, where Americans arrived on the D Day). From my perspective,
I love America, they can self-mock about clichés and stuff when other countries would be offended.

When it comes to politics, I don't know, France is guilty of either electing someone they'll then regret for being(seemingly)lazy, not doing anything, or voting for a greedy hyperactive extremist, thus regretting it also.

Each countries probably have their flaws hey...



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/leviathan said:
Well, as long as Trump isn't president, pretty darn good. They need to stop being the Earth's police force


Don't worry, we think that way about being the world's policemen too.

Too (loosely) quote Ron Paul - "We (America) need to embrace the wealth of a nuetral country, instead of enduring the poverty that comes from being an empire."



sc94597 said:
Rogerioandrade said:

- the insistence in treating regional continental divisions as separate continents (North/South/Central America). Thankfully, not all Americans agree with that and many don´t care. But those who care have a tendency to be very, very vocal about it, to the point of hating those who don´t agree. It seems that they don´t like to think that they live in the same continent as Venezuela or Brazil.

Generally this is the logic behind it. Eurasia has a better claim to being a single continent than America. 

 

I see.....

There are at least  seven continent models accepted/known universally, but only 2 of them actually consider North/South America as separate continents.

America is considered as a single continent since its discovery, it was only later, in the 17th century, that some maps started to depict North and South America, for some unknow reason (probably due to colonization matters)

Even so, it´s still a country and a continent with the same name. It can get confusing, sometimes.



Nem said:
kappie1977 said:

I agree with you that the USA is a very big country and it's very devided. But I don't agree with you that it's good that they are involving as a kind of world police force. This because most of the reasons of the conflicts are done because of this so called world police force. Look at a lot of countries which normally were small countries, but after WWII in coop with the USA are put together to create one country! The USA (also other govnerments in the world) have really no idea that you  can't just put different cultures together and make one country and think this will work out because you have the dictator/leader under controll! There are quite some examples of countries which have been complete disaster master plans from USA (with help with other Western countries). And therefore eventhough Russia and China are emerging countries which could be very powerfull in the near future and also scary, the most scary country currently is the USA with their manipulation. I have the feeling that USA is not really driven by the govnerment but by big companies which want to spread and have more influence in the world and therefore they mangle in all countries!

Your point about Putin I don't agree at all. I don't even think he would like to have any of the European countries currently! (He would get more problems than gaining anything) Puttin is only targeting old Sovjet countries and to be honest it's not so strange, because maybe you don't know but many people in those countries like Ukraine would love to be part of Sovjet/Russia again as they have been part of Russia for a long period and eventhough we here in the west don't like the communistic ways, I think they think the same way about our kapatilistic and so called Democratic govnerments! You can't force certain countries/cultures to change because you don't like their ways! And this is the biggest thing I hate about the USA Govnerment and also a lot of European politics that they are trying to change middle east countries into democratic countries. A lot of countries are still not really one united country and have smaller groups which rule and have (sometimes only minor) religious differences and therefore don't want to work together with the other groups, so why would we force those people to work with each other? 


Ok, i obviously needed to make it clearer that the Puttin mention was an "what if" example as he is the one that would be closer to that atm. Its not a situation that can happen immediatly, but without deterrents i think it will just be a matter of time until another crazy lunatic with visions of grandeur comes along and thinks he can get what he wants and be unpunished.

Also, i dont think those EX-USSR countries are nearly as eager to go back as you say, or they wouldnt have separated in the first place.

As for your other point about small countries... Well... i have not really adressed that. I said that the USA should be a deterrance force, but how often and how they use their force is a different issue. What i wouldn't like to see is for the US to just go: "Look, we don't care anymore, we are just gonna mind our own business." . That is what i'm worried about. A green card for lunatics to think they can.

I understand your point, but I think that it's even the otherway around that USA is the more dangarous country. They are not acting/involving in issues if they can't gain or get controll over a region. No country govnerment would just attact a certain dictator because it's for the people of that country! If you really think that any country would do that you are pretty naive. Ofcourse the govnerment wants us to be for involvement, so they do all kind of propoganda to convince you, your country needs to be involved!



kappie1977 said:
Nem said:


Ok, i obviously needed to make it clearer that the Puttin mention was an "what if" example as he is the one that would be closer to that atm. Its not a situation that can happen immediatly, but without deterrents i think it will just be a matter of time until another crazy lunatic with visions of grandeur comes along and thinks he can get what he wants and be unpunished.

Also, i dont think those EX-USSR countries are nearly as eager to go back as you say, or they wouldnt have separated in the first place.

As for your other point about small countries... Well... i have not really adressed that. I said that the USA should be a deterrance force, but how often and how they use their force is a different issue. What i wouldn't like to see is for the US to just go: "Look, we don't care anymore, we are just gonna mind our own business." . That is what i'm worried about. A green card for lunatics to think they can.

I understand your point, but I think that it's even the otherway around that USA is the more dangarous country. They are not acting/involving in issues if they can't gain or get controll over a region. No country govnerment would just attact a certain dictator because it's for the people of that country! If you really think that any country would do that you are pretty naive. Ofcourse the govnerment wants us to be for involvement, so they do all kind of propoganda to convince you, your country needs to be involved!


I did make that point. There are definitly economic interests at play. The US is not always right at all. But i don't think a world without the US would be a better world. It would become a more dangerous one. Even with economic interests, they are deterrents for bigger threats. Small countries and how they intervene is highly debatable and i'm not defending it in any way. I'm just against isolitionism because that was an enabler for large wars to happen in the past.



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Nem said:
kappie1977 said:

I understand your point, but I think that it's even the otherway around that USA is the more dangarous country. They are not acting/involving in issues if they can't gain or get controll over a region. No country govnerment would just attact a certain dictator because it's for the people of that country! If you really think that any country would do that you are pretty naive. Ofcourse the govnerment wants us to be for involvement, so they do all kind of propoganda to convince you, your country needs to be involved!


I did make that point. There are definitly economic interests at play. The US is not always right at all. But i don't think a world without the US would be a better world. It would become a more dangerous one. Even with economic interests, they are deterrents for bigger threats. Small countries and how they intervene is highly debatable and i'm not defending it in any way. I'm just against isolitionism because that was an enabler for large wars to happen in the past.

Kosovo is a great example of that. A horrible genocide was prevented.



I LOVE ICELAND!

Great country on the whole. Just too much religion and too many guns.



KungKras said:
Nem said:
kappie1977 said:

I understand your point, but I think that it's even the otherway around that USA is the more dangarous country. They are not acting/involving in issues if they can't gain or get controll over a region. No country govnerment would just attact a certain dictator because it's for the people of that country! If you really think that any country would do that you are pretty naive. Ofcourse the govnerment wants us to be for involvement, so they do all kind of propoganda to convince you, your country needs to be involved!


I did make that point. There are definitly economic interests at play. The US is not always right at all. But i don't think a world without the US would be a better world. It would become a more dangerous one. Even with economic interests, they are deterrents for bigger threats. Small countries and how they intervene is highly debatable and i'm not defending it in any way. I'm just against isolitionism because that was an enabler for large wars to happen in the past.

Kosovo is a great example of that. A horrible genocide was prevented.

Kosovo is a great example of what is wrong with involvement of Europe and USA! Our countries (USA and most of the European countries) created Yuguslavia which was a disaster. We shouldn't want to create countries in areas where the culture between the groups is too big, this always turns out in to conflicts and the normal people in those countries are the ones who pay the bill! Ofcourse when the war broke out in the nineties we had to act and try to handle everything over there better as we (our countries) all looked the other way when the first problem started with Bosnia and because of that the total area was getting smaller and bigger groups which wanted to fight/eliminate each other! So like I said before, in my opinion all the casualties are a result of the involvement of the other countries. Ofcourse in that area didn't were on good terms with each other from around end of 19th cent and the WWI and II have increased the hate feeling between the countries.(which where put together). And there are more examples of this!



WW1 & WW2 sealed the USA's fate that isolationist stuff was over with since the USA was a Superpower, world police/defenders of Democracy. Sad but true.



Are we talking about just the US here or globally in the US?