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generic-user-1 said:
mai said:
generic-user-1 said:
mai said:
generic-user-1 said:

now iotsthe time for GB and france to act, they have to nuke riad or there will be never peace in the middle east. russia cant do that because it would cause a escalation to the allready tense relationship between the west and russia-

Carthago delenda est. It's a recurring topic of your posts.

deer lord, i was so blind...  

Well, you kinda deaf too ;) You keep insisting on nuking Riyadh, while, as I've said it previously, that's hardly a solution to everyone's problem, in fact it's counter-productive. Nobody likes Saudis, yes, but that's not an argument.

they finance terrorism, thats enough for me(and teh saudi regime isnt better than ISIS anyway).  just nuke em, and freeze their assets and the world is alot safer.

You are hopefully aware that the only thing nuking a city in the arab world would achieve would be massive hatred against the attacker in all muslim communities, thus just massively boosting the ranks of ISIS, Al Quaida and other Islamist fanatics (and worse, basically proving their destructive teachings against western societies to be true in their eyes); and getting looked down upon from virtually every other country and citizen on earth for going such an extreme route, politically completly isolating the country who nuked Riad.

The Saudi regime is not a huge improvement over ISIS or Al Quaida, but it is one nonetheless. Further destabilising the region can only have a negative impact to everyone, both in the Arab World and outside of it. The whole region is already a thinderbox of unrest, setting fire to it definitly will not solve any problems for anyone involved.



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Bofferbrauer said:
generic-user-1 said:
mai said:
generic-user-1 said:
mai said:
generic-user-1 said:

now iotsthe time for GB and france to act, they have to nuke riad or there will be never peace in the middle east. russia cant do that because it would cause a escalation to the allready tense relationship between the west and russia-

Carthago delenda est. It's a recurring topic of your posts.

deer lord, i was so blind...  

Well, you kinda deaf too ;) You keep insisting on nuking Riyadh, while, as I've said it previously, that's hardly a solution to everyone's problem, in fact it's counter-productive. Nobody likes Saudis, yes, but that's not an argument.

they finance terrorism, thats enough for me(and teh saudi regime isnt better than ISIS anyway).  just nuke em, and freeze their assets and the world is alot safer.

You are hopefully aware that the only thing nuking a city in the arab world would achieve would be massive hatred against the attacker in all muslim communities, thus just massively boosting the ranks of ISIS, Al Quaida and other Islamist fanatics (and worse, basically proving their destructive teachings against western societies to be true in their eyes); and getting looked down upon from virtually every other country and citizen on earth for going such an extreme route, politically completly isolating the country who nuked Riad.

The Saudi regime is not a huge improvement over ISIS or Al Quaida, but it is one nonetheless. Further destabilising the region can only have a negative impact to everyone, both in the Arab World and outside of it. The whole region is already a thinderbox of unrest, setting fire to it definitly will not solve any problems for anyone involved.

thats why i said the brits or french, they are allready hated.  and isis is no problem when you cut the money and weapon support from saudi arabia, okay maybe quatar needs to be nuked too.

next step after that should be a peace between iran, syria and the kurds. the kurds get some land, assad gets alot of air support and small arms and iran get enough tanks to roll over isis in iraq.

let em join isis if they want, an unleashed iran and heavly armed syria will slaughter them. and if not, there are enough bomber in the west and russia to carpet bomb any land ISIS holds.  



I'm a Croat and I find our current situation troubling. The number of refugees who want to stay here is almost zero. My country's not good enough for them, huh? They want to get their beep beep harder.

Really unfortunate we are becoming this sieve for Schengen, but it's pure fluid dynamics, we should have been more prepared. This will put a big strain on us which will only grow and grow and we need to be stronger, cut at the core. We should be fighting not to let them in and certainly not letting them pass if they're uninvited further. We would be doing a service for the rest of Europe, not so much for ourselves.



I think socialist governement are making a really dumb move, they act without thinking about the consequences, but we have to blame all the blind/ not educated people who voted for them, i even miss sarkozy ( though the best was chirac, a man who knew how to use both side when the situation required it)



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And be okay with that whereas we had the biggest terrorist attack just 10month ago at Charlie Hebdo, such dumb move, they will regret it... So clever to let any person claiming to be from Syria come here while we have no informations on all these migrants, so clever.



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But the worst party really is the fact these people have more helps than french people or even regular migrants from other countries, that's a shame, a hobo from France wouuld have much less help, only 400 euros of help and no free apartment,  we have a problem to find apartments for students , there are not enough, still we give free student apartment to migrants + 600 euros + free university for some, it's crazy.



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You know I might just be some sort of bigoted man that used to be Labour, but I think we might be looking at the Straw that broke the camel's back here as far as the EU is concerned. The EU's Dublin Regulation is de facto suspended, seeming end of Schengen, Merkel self-elected big boss of the EU, non-action from the UN.

I think this crisis might be the beginning of the end of the EU ( at least in it's current form) hopefully I’m wrong and the EU countries can work out a better response both for themselves and the Syrian migrants.



http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/chinese-military-personnel-expected-to-arrive-in-syria/
It seems that Russia plans to stabilize the ISIS situation in Siria together with China and Iran.

Strange thing that yesterday USA refused to put ISIS to the list of terroristic organisations...



These aren't refugees take good look at the majority, young healthy males. Meaning this is like the Trojan horse on steroids. The fact that Europe is so soft is sad because you'd think after WWI, then WWII, you would learn your lesson. People who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.



Burek said:
KingofTrolls said:


Milanovic said Croatia cannot accept anymore refugees. They accepted 14k and now they are trying to smuggle them to Hungary.

 http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/17/us-europe-migrants-idUSKCN0RD0P420150917

Croatia said it may have to use the army to stop thousands of migrants criss-crossing the Western Balkans in their quest for sanctuary in the wealthy 28-nation bloc. It shuttled some to reception centers near Zagreb, but many simply slipped the net of overwhelmed authorities and set off for the Slovenian border, just 30 kilometers (19 miles) from the Croatian capital.


We are nit smuggling them, we are helping them go where they want to go. They want to go North, we accept them, give them food, water, clothing, SIM cards, anything else they need, put them on buses or trains and take them to the next border.

It is what they want, anybody that wants to stay in Croatia is welcomed, but they would rather go to more developed countries where they can find employment instead of staying here where there are no jobs for them. There was never a mention of stopping them (accept from.some right wing idiots that mobody takes seriously anyway). Police was there to help them, armed only with fruit and good will.

 

I think.we can be proud of ourselves, not throwing tear gas or beating the unfortunate people. I doubt any of those 17000 or how many people can have a bad word about Croatia. We are not wealthy, but we are not assholes either.


People like you are th cause for the acts of terrorism that are being allowed to be perpetuated across the world.