Don't let anyone in. That is all.
| Roronaa_chan said: Don't let anyone in. That is all. |
but they are people too, you know? and they werent born stupid or evil, they were born totaly normal like you and me.
generic-user-1 said:
but they are people too |
That is the problem
| generic-user-1 said: we are 500m europeans, we could help those poor people. the main problem is that we cant sent them away in countrys like poland or spain, that would just be inhumane. and we germans arent anti russian at all, the man you quoted had real big problems in his own party because of the sanctions. |
I dunno, argument that we're many and therefore capable to help is rather futile to me. We're 145m and since 2014 accepted over 750k refugees according to the UN, but a) these people were predominantly culturally compatible with the coutry they're fleeing to, hence no "alien" problem, no language barier etc.; b) situation in Ukraine has not ran out of hope yet and might stabilize in the future, while Near East will surely deteriorate further, and smth that looks like exponential trend is indeed a scary trend; c) last but not least, refugees from Ukraine don't have problems finding jobs over here, while EU refugees totally and inevitably are a big minus in the balance sheets and therefore an extra burden to the social system which has seen better days.
So I do consider this's a big deal, which requires fundamental changes in the foreign policy.
mai said:
I dunno, argument that we're many and therefore capable to help is rather futile to me. We're 145m and since 2014 accepted over 750k refugees according to the UN, but a) these people were predominantly culturally compatible with the coutry they're fleeing to, hence no "alien" problem, no language barier etc.; b) situation in Ukraine has not ran out of hope yet and might stabilize in the future, while Near East will surely deteriorate further, and smth that looks like exponential trend is indeed a scary trend; c) last but not least, refugees from Ukraine don't have problems finding jobs over here, while EU refugees totally and inevitably are a big minus in the balance sheets and therefore an extra burden to the social system which has seen better days. So I do consider this's a big deal, which requires fundamental changes in the foreign policy. |
we need alot of cheap workers in germany, there are way to less people who do the dirty jobs, and you dont have to speak german or french to clean toilets or serve at mcdonalds. and i personaly prefer kurdish "muslims" who worship ocalan over polish catholics who worship a bunch of child abuser in rome if it comes to guest workers.
| GamechaserBE said: Honestly it makes me very proud to be European to see how many are so willingly to help even giving refugees a place in their home. Every sane person knows that this will have a negative effect the coming years for employment/Poverty and general social economy situations.Then again we are already at a point that the numbers are getting crazy. Munich one city in Germany had 60.000 refugees in one week. And that Musmils vs Europeans discussion is sad, muslims themself are victims of the radicical muslims. |
they are victims of islam, religion is bad for society.
| generic-user-1 said:
we need alot of cheap workers in germany, there are way to less people who do the dirty jobs, and you dont have to speak german or french to clean toilets or serve at mcdonalds. and i personaly prefer kurdish "muslims" who worship ocalan over polish catholics who worship a bunch of child abuser in rome if it comes to guest workers. |
1 million toilet cleaners (only in 2015!), do you even need so many? By the looks of those refugees a lot of them weren't piss poor in the country of living, so I'm not sure these're the jobs they're expecting :D Well, that's not my call, I'm just warning this's going to be much more complicated than it looks. Time will tell.
mai said:
1 million toilet cleaners (only in 2015!), do you even need so many? By the looks of those refugees a lot of them weren't piss poor in the country of living, so I'm not sure these're the jobs they're expecting :D Well, that's not my call, I'm just warning this's going to be much more complicated than it looks. Time will tell. |
they cant get social benefits if they say no to an offered job, thats the rule in germany.
generic-user-1 said:
they cant get social benefits if they say no to an offered job, thats the rule in germany. |
Not so in Australia. 60% of refugees cannot find a job after 5 years in the country. That's a lot of wasted money.
so the refugee started to tear down the fence in hungary.
the EU should send in the army and reestablish the rightfull austrian rule in hungary...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW1Pc4zvqN8
okay maybe the hungaryans arent that wrong after all, there are some reports that refugees returned food the hungaryans provided because it contained pork.
if somebody sees you hungry and gives you something to eat thats not rotten or full of ratpoison, you fuckn eat it and say thanks.
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