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Europa has more than enough capacity to help the rwfugeea coming here. We need to find a social and economic solution for the afflicted region and force other arab countries to help their neighbours.



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mai said:

My arguments were in the post one below the "deadbeats" post, which are facts. Your arguments are value judgements, which are not facts by definition, pointless to argue with them, you're entitled to believe in what you choosed to believe.


I don't know what you mean by "deadbeats" post, you haven't made any factual arguments in this thread.

The only post that contains something resembling arguments is the 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) one. And these are all vague predictions and interpretations of events, not facts.

If it's in a different thread, sorry, I'm not looking for it.

And any quality assessment must by definition be a value judgment. I don't know what's wrong with that.



All I know is that my country takes in way to many , we cant handle the costs... but my country is so F-ing PC that they try and convince the rest of the people here that we can help many many more while our "own" people who have lived here and worked here for 50+ years cant get a decent pension or healthcare  nor our young adoults can't move out beacuse there are nowhere to move.
no wonder the "nationalist2 party is now the 2nd biggest... going from 4% of the wotes 10 years ago to 22% today.



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On another note. I'm pretty sure refugees will be one of the major scapegoats for any troubles during economic downtime in Europe, well, at least for anything social expenditures related. I mean politicians couldn't tell people they're out of pensions and healthcare and expect to remain on their respective positions, could they? In these delf inflicted economies those social funds has already been "invested" into "trusty" Greek bonds or smth similar in trustworthiness. Americans brought that to a whole new level thanks to IRC most popular plan that effectively made a petty speculator from every one of them, so a couple decades later half of those who about to retire are a proud owners of valuable "assets" made of stocks and a home they don't technically own. I probably won't exaggerate by a whole much if I say that in not so distant the future the total worth of said social savings are around zero, but that's not totally apparent right now for the public. Situation is like with a watchman of a storehouse who has stollen everything he could from the storehouse he supposed to look after and instead of next inspection that'll expose him as a thief he gets natural disaster or war to write all off. Perfect! War will writes everything off, and media will explain people whom and why they should hate. Bwa-ha-ha :D



WolfpackN64 said:
Europa has more than enough capacity to help the rwfugeea coming here. We need to find a social and economic solution for the afflicted region and force other arab countries to help their neighbours.

Europe has enough of its own people that need help, fuck others from elsewhere.  They have no right for European help.

How about rather then another 10 billion dollar useless skyscraper, other RICH as FUCK muslims help these muslims.  



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Sharu said:
Lawlight said:


What exactly is upsetting you? The fact that people are pointing out that Islamist have caused great damage to the west in recent times?

What? I think West caused MUCH greater damage to islamic people last 15 years...


Islamic people have done more damage to themselves.



Things will only continue to get worse until the world stops fooling itself into thinking going to war is the way to create a stable and prosperous country. If you want a country to be peaceful and stable help it to prosper, don't bomb it to shit and arm every little rebel group because you happen to not like the person in charge.



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GTstation said:
WolfpackN64 said:
Europa has more than enough capacity to help the rwfugeea coming here. We need to find a social and economic solution for the afflicted region and force other arab countries to help their neighbours.

Europe has enough of its own people that need help, fuck others from elsewhere.  They have no right for European help.

How about rather then another 10 billion dollar useless skyscraper, other RICH as FUCK muslims help these muslims.  

Probably because the people wanting to escape places like Syria don't want to flee to just another ultraconservative muslim country. There are also a lot of non-muslim people fleeing. It's a rather ignorant view assuming all these people are muslim. I certainly think money can be put up by Saudi Arabia and UAE to help cover the costs. But I don't think Saudi Arabia, in particular, is a good place to send refugees, especially not non-Muslims and certainly not women.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

Naum said:

All I know is that my country takes in way to many , we cant handle the costs... but my country is so F-ing PC that they try and convince the rest of the people here that we can help many many more while our "own" people who have lived here and worked here for 50+ years cant get a decent pension or healthcare  nor our young adoults can't move out beacuse there are nowhere to move.
no wonder the "nationalist2 party is now the 2nd biggest... going from 4% of the wotes 10 years ago to 22% today.

You live in Sweden, don't you?

Where child rapists get looser sentences that those found with weed.

Where Jews are now getting persecuted by all those anti-Semitic immigrants (I think they deserve it, considering that Jews have been pushing for multiculturalism, but the stance of Swedish Jews is now turning against multiculturalism.)

Or, where the politicians live in ALL-WHITE AREAS and tell everyone else to shoulder the responsibility of assisting the immigrants to live in Sweden.

Oh, and I forget to mention how libraries are supposed to be "lively meeting places" now.

And it's racist to even suggest to have the same immigration policy as Finland or Denmark or Norway.



 
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binary solo said:
GTstation said:

Europe has enough of its own people that need help, fuck others from elsewhere.  They have no right for European help.

How about rather then another 10 billion dollar useless skyscraper, other RICH as FUCK muslims help these muslims.  

Probably because the people wanting to escape places like Syria don't want to flee to just another ultraconservative muslim country. There are also a lot of non-muslim people fleeing. It's a rather ignorant view assuming all these people are muslim. I certainly think money can be put up by Saudi Arabia and UAE to help cover the costs. But I don't think Saudi Arabia, in particular, is a good place to send refugees, especially not non-Muslims and certainly not women.

Ohh but when they come they chant death to UK death to france Islam will take over its cool.  Its a educated guess vast majority are muslim,  since they are from muslim nations.  They flee ultraconservative muslim nations to try to set up ultraconservative muslim ways in another mens land.  at all.

Quatar UAE Kuweit are far from Saud like nut jobs.  They should go there.    

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