CosmicSex said:
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Thats from the UK, right? considering the thread title.
The Xbox One does fairly well in the UK.... its bound to be much more in the PS4's favor more or less anywhere else in the world.
JRPGfan said:
The Xbox One does fairly well in the UK.... its bound to be much more in the PS4's favor more or less anywhere else in the world. |
Yes you are right. If you consider the 3 million shipment across platforms; in order for Konami to produce a proper split
At 70% minumun share they would have had to ship 2.1 million PS4 copies.
At 20% Xbox One min share we would need t ship 600k XBO copies.
jason1637 said:
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You probably don't really understand what impressive means. Any time something does better than it ever did before it is impressive, it doesn't matter if the past performance was modest or excellent. Outperforming what you did previously is always impressive unless you are going from dismal to merely poor.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
binary solo said:
You probably don't really understand what impressive means. Any time something does better than it ever did before it is impressive, it doesn't matter if the past performance was modest or excellent. Outperforming what you did previously is always impressive unless you are going from dismal to merely poor. |
Heh you just made up your own definition for "impressive". And no, doing 5 sit-ups is not impressive even if you did only 4 a year before.
KiigelHeart said:
Heh you just made up your own definition for "impressive". And no, doing 5 sit-ups is not impressive even if you did only 4 a year before. |
This
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DerNebel said: 95% what? |
Estimated based in 95% of the retails in UK...
KiigelHeart said:
Heh you just made up your own definition for "impressive". And no, doing 5 sit-ups is not impressive even if you did only 4 a year before. |
You conveniently ignore the caveat to make a useless retort.
If you were only physically capable of doing 4 sit ups a year ago and you can now do 5 that is impressive, your physical capacity for doing sit ups has increased 25%. Consider a stroke victim for instance, making improvements in physical capacity of what would normally be considered as slight is impressive. Sure if you are capable of doing 100 sit ups but you only did 4 last year and did 5 this year that's pathetic on both counts. What's impressive is relative to ones own capacity, if you exceed what you were previously capable of then that is generally an impressive achievement. If you want some absolute comparison then nothing is impressive unless it beats CoD / GTA opening weeks.
If Usain Bolt runs 100M in 10 seconds flat that's not impressive, because it's running less than his best. If I run 100M is 20 seconds, trying my hardest, last year and this year I do it in 15 seconds, that's impressive because i have significantly improved on my personal best achievement.
Hence for the topic at hand, previously the capacity for MGS sales was set with MGS2, that means MGS3 and 4 failed to improve on that week 1 performance (I've no idea about LTD for each of these games) and thus did not expand the capacity for sales. It could be reasonably surmised that MGS5 would not exceed MGS2 based on opening week sales for MGS3 and 4. MGS5 exceeding MGS2 sales, by a substantial margin (almost 37%), is therefore an impressive achievement. What isn't particularly impressive is the fact that the Xbox share of MGS5 is about 2% lower than the Xbox share of Ground Zeroes. But what may be impressive about MGS5 on Xbox is that it could become the best selling MGS game on Xbox. It needs to beat MGS2: Substance.
Also, just to be clear, when I first saw the more or less confirmed MGS5 number I wasn't particularly impressed, until I was reminded that it is the best opening week for any MGS game in the UK, so I became impressed.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
binary solo said:
You conveniently ignore the caveat to make a useless retort. If you were only physically capable of doing 4 sit ups a year ago and you can now do 5 that is impressive, your physical capacity for doing sit ups has increased 25%. Consider a stroke victim for instance, making improvements in physical capacity of what would normally be considered as slight is impressive. Sure if you are capable of doing 100 sit ups but you only did 4 last year and did 5 this year that's pathetic on both counts. What's impressive is relative to ones own capacity, if you exceed what you were previously capable of then that is generally an impressive achievement. If you want some absolute comparison then nothing is impressive unless it beats CoD / GTA opening weeks. |
There you have it. With that stroke victim example you are now getting closer to the actual definition of "impressed" - making a strong impression, all things considered. In your next example you say "significantly improve" which is also importat point. CoD/GTA comparison is pointless, simply significantly exceeding expectations can make a strong impression. This is all common sense so I don't know why you decided to lecture others with your own absolute definition. I was expecting MGSV to do better and split between PS4 and X1 tells us it failed to attract xbox gamers so I can't really call myself impressed. Of course it's UK only so far.
But hey, Xbox One is tracking ahead of 360 so far, I'd expect you to describe Xbox One sales as "impressive" from now on :)
KiigelHeart said:
There you have it. With that stroke victim example you are now getting closer to the actual definition of "impressed" - making a strong impression, all things considered. In your next example you say "significantly improve" which is also importat point. CoD/GTA comparison is pointless, simply significantly exceeding expectations can make a strong impression. This is all common sense so I don't know why you decided to lecture others with your own absolute definition. I was expecting MGSV to do better and split between PS4 and X1 tells us it failed to attract xbox gamers so I can't really call myself impressed. Of course it's UK only so far. But hey, Xbox One is tracking ahead of 360 so far, I'd expect you to describe Xbox One sales as "impressive" from now on :) |
How can I be accused of making an arbitrary absolute definition when my whole original point was that impressive is a relative term? Again, people failing to understand and only wanting to look at things from their own pre-conceived notions.
37% isn't a significant improvement on the previous best result with MGS2? I think it is. Hence impressive. MGS5 has impressive sales in the UK relative to how past MGS titles have sold in the UK. I don't see how anyone can actually argue against that statement, and most people are using the word within that context.
You were expecting closer to a 50/50 split between Xb one and PS4? That's just not realistic. You were pre-destined to not have a particularly positive view on MGS sales with that sort of expectation going in. You should also examine your expectations for MGS5 overall if you expected better than the 169K it sold. Like I said, my initial reaction was fairly muted with the MGS5 total until I was reminded that it's the best launch ever for MGS in the UK by a significant %. MGS gets the sort of fan (and media?) hype that comes with franchises like GTA and Mario, so it possibly creates expectations for levels of sales like those of GTA and Mario. But the fact is MGS has always been a series where the buzz generally exceeds the sales. Huge buzz, good sales. Makes people expect more than they should from opening week sales. Leads to people being underwhelmed when sales numbers are actually reported.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
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UK have the worst taste in vidya.
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