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I think they already have lot's of sports options... ya see, Basketball, Baseball, Ice hockey, Armored Rugby, and the list goes on...
Besides, U.S.A normaly don't likes sports where they are not considered the best or at least one of the best... =P



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Because it is horrendously boring...



Ka-pi96 said:
Qwark said:
Metallox said:

The men's team is the best in the CONCACAF. How is that a terrible team?


Compared to European and South American countries it is not all that great. Like the best European guy isn't all that special at a Marathon or at Tabletennis for that

The 2012 Olympics 10km marathon was won by a European guy. So if the best European isn't all that special at a marathon... what does that make the rest of the world?

10km isn't marathon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon



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Metallox said:
John120219 said:
Because our actual National Soccer team is terrible. Well our Men's National team is terrible, our Women's National team is amazing.

The men's team is the best in the CONCACAF. How is that a terrible team?

No, it's not:

http://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/concacaf.html



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RolStoppable said:
sundin13 said:
Because it is horrendously boring...

That explanation doesn't work for a country where baseball is popular.


Baseball is several degrees less boring than Soccer, but I see your point...



Ka-pi96 said:
Qwark said:


Compared to European and South American countries it is not all that great. Like the best European guy isn't all that special at a Marathon or at Tabletennis for that

The 2012 Olympics 10km marathon was won by a European guy. So if the best European isn't all that special at a marathon... what does that make the rest of the world?

What? 10km marathon, lolo...Everything you wrote tells me you don't watch athletics a lot. If you are talking about men's 10000m race, yes it was won by british guy named Mo Farah but he was not born in Europe. Mo Farah was born in Africa (Somalia) and continues the African born domination in distance running, it is crucial to know the difference.

 

edit: just to make sure, 10km marathon does not exist, it's like saying 1km long mile



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Basketball is actually becoming huge worldwide. It will overpass soccer eventually.



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Basketball is actually becoming huge worldwide. It will overpass soccer eventually.

I hope so. Basketball's great.



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invetedlotus123 said:

The biggest sports there are basketball, American football and baseball. None of them are exceptionally big anywhere with some few exceptions, like baseball in Japan. Why USA never jumped the soccer bandwagon? They're like and island, I never heard of a worldwide competition of any of those sports.


Historically, the United States were always very nationalist, they resist conforming to what others do unless completely necessary, even if the way the rest of the world does things is demonstrably superior.

It is understandable that they would keep to their national sports instead of the world-wide ones.

However, it's changing now. The Latino population in the USA rises, soccer is the 2nd most popular sport for people under 24 and the MLS is getting better and better. i believe that in 20 years, soccer will be the 3rd most popular American sport behind baseball and gridiron.

 

To be fair, reports of our "nationalistic" tendencies are somewhat overblown. To begin with, our war for independence was fought not because we felt we were different or superior, but rather because we weren't granted the rights and privileges that proper British citizens received. There were few who desired independence before the long string of grievances (proclamation of 1763, stamp act, Townsend acts, intolerable acts etc); rather, they wanted to be properly integrated.


After becoming an independent nation the U.S. has certainly had an independent streak, but I don't feel they were any more "nationalistic" than most western nations. Unlike many, from the start they wanted to reduce the popularity of mercantilism and open the world to trade, and the wealthy trade relations established between the U.S. and UK almost immediately following independence, it being more lucrative to the British than when they owned the territory themselves, was an early model for less restrictive trade going forward.


Otherwise, the U.S. also overcame its own strong, powerful prejudices towards other cultures and religions in allowing unprecedentedly large legal waves of immigration. Really, I marvel at the idea that in 2015 the very idea of accepting a few thousand refugees is meeting such resistance in many modern, enlightened European countries, considering the U.S. in a bygone era (1830-1920) accepted over five million Irish Catholics (given that's nearly my entire ancestry I'm glad for it, and don't underestimate the Protestant hate for Catholics in this era). 


They were obviously treated terribly for the first few generations, but the idea that just one group of migrants, possessing a different culture, religion, no money, and even often language (Gaelic was not uncommon) was allowed in to the number of over five million simultaneous to many other groups, I think, is quite remarkable. To this day we still legally accept slightly over a million migrants annually (too few in my opinion), far make than any other nation, and still make the same fear-based complaints about said immigrants that have been spouted since Ben Franklin worried aloud that we might soon be speaking German.


I think, then, that this is a misappropriation of the term "nationalist". We've not had nationalistic tendencies since we were fighting for our independence, and even then it was in pursuit of political rights that had been denied. The USA has long been a messy country that is, essentially, inventing itself on the fly. Our politics, demographics, and economy is in a constant state of flux, though politically we've largely seen more stability than most nations since the end of the Civil War. There is no real unified and readily accepted concept of what "America" is here quite like there often is for older nations whose population has hardly changed over the centuries.


Otherwise, your example of us not adopting the metric system is the result of convenience, not obstinacy. The U.S., with its geographical size, over 310 million people, and 50 states, is like an EU unto itself. Unlike the EU where cooperation and conformity were enormously beneficial for the shared trade, roads, and highways of a great many countries, no such need exists here. We have two neighbors and the borders are not open.


It simply makes little sense to make the switch. In all matters science the metric system is used and it is taught in our schools, but the public is familiar with the old imperial system and uses it in their everyday lives. There's just little reason to convert for the average day activities. Consider, for instance, how costly and time consuming it would be to replace all the signs of the world's longest (by far) network of roads with metric measurements, and then retrofit all the dashboards with km/hr to avoid confusion in a nation with more cars per person than any other spare the micro states of Monaco, San Marino, and Lichtenstein. Who, really, would even benefit from that? It would simply be a waste.


Really, we have less a sense of ourselves than just about any country, and we've not gone nearly so far down the road of true nationalism as many countries did throughout the 20th century. People just look at us and see that our measurements are different, our sports are different, that we often place greater significance in what the constitution says than an international body (to the point that we'll propose something like the League of Nations and not even join it lol), and they think these are deliberate attempts at doing the opposite of the rest of the world. This, of course, is largely untrue; the idea that we could so come together on any idea as to be capable of pulling off a grand plan like that is silly. Rather, the US simply grew from the ground up as a nation with few anchors in the past, no real rivals or puppet-masters in the region (especially as they approached the 19th century), and few connections to the old world. That it wound up looking different from other countries should not come as a surprise.