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Is it time for Nintendo to ditch the Gamepad?

Yes 45 13.60%
 
No 144 43.50%
 
Last Year was the time 18 5.44%
 
Launch was the best time 19 5.74%
 
Its to late now, it wont do any good 86 25.98%
 
See results 19 5.74%
 
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Goodnightmoon on 05 September 2015
eva01beserk said:
Samus Aran said:
spemanig said:
mZuzek said:
By now, it'll do more bad than good... especially more so considering Nintendo's 3 major games this year (Splatoon, Super Mario Maker and Star Fox Zero) all make good use of the Gamepad.


From what I've seen and played, only Mario Maker does. Not Splatoon, and definitely not the abomination. 

You haven't played Splatoon.

It makes great use of the gamepad.

Isnt the only things available on the screan a map, then when you die you can click a friend and warp to him? something that can be done with a list, since it only happens at reaspan, and a regular minimap on the big screen.

No, it doesn´t happen only at respawn, it happens whenever you want, you tap someone on the screen depending on his position an you jump to him, is very quick and intuitive thanks to the gamepad, the missile is used on a similar way, you have to tap quickly the point of the map you want it to fall, and then it launch and falls there, and more important, Splatoon uses the gyro controls of the Gamepad making aiming almost as accurate as PC mouse, the gameplay is way more dinamic and precise thanks to it, and as a nice feature, you can play retro squid minigames on the gamepad while waiting for the matchmaking, wich is very charm. Overall Splatoon makes a great use of the gamepad.



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eva01beserk on 05 September 2015
DevilRising said:
No offense, OP, but about 500 of these exact type of threads have been made, almost literally since the launch of the damn thing in 2012.

The controller has never been the problem. It was NoA's shitty marketing. That's been discussed ad naseum in countless threads.

At this point, Wii U is what it is. It's not gonna "catch up" to PS4, so there's no point in worrying about it. Enjoy the good games it does get, and move on. If Nintendo wants to spur sales, then they need to drop the damn price THIS holiday season, have some new bundles ready, and advertise the fuck out of the thing.

And even then, it's not ever gonna catch up to PS4. So I say, oh well.

No one needs it to catch up to the Ps4. Nintendo just needs to have some avarage sales, like at least gamecube levels. The problem Im seeing iss that going to the next console while the current userbase is so little and frankly, some are disapointed, might nt be the best move. People will loose trust like with sega. Unless they do something so revoutionary that people wont be able to resist. Wich could happen, but its unlikely.

While the marketing is a big deal, just inmagine how easier it would be to market a console for $100 less. 



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eva01beserk on 05 September 2015
PAOerfulone said:

Seeing as how we are now getting a game that takes complete and total advantage of the screen on the GamePad, so much so that the GamePad is required to play that game in the first place, ditching it now would be a terrible move.
And on that topic, I feel that the Wii U would have had a better launch sales wise, and would be selling better if it had Super Mario Maker as a launch title, (that and better marketing), because that game does exactly as I said, take complete and total advantage of the different elements that the GamePad brings to the table. It would have had it's killer app right from the get go, instead of 3 years later where it's too little, too late.


In hindsight yea. But thats asuming that nintendo had mario maker since the begining ready and just decided now to release it. Install base is the main concern now, and lowering the price wont sole the issue, but it will help a bit. Killer apps come and go and are often just side projects that no one thinks it will be good and they dont put to much effort in it, but it suprises everybody.



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AlfredoTurkey on 05 September 2015
eva01beserk said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
If this was 2013, maybe. But now it's a little late. Just ride it out and get it right with their next system.


Waiting it could be worse. Who knows how manny fans nitnedo has lost, if they can gain a few more fans before the next one hits it would be better. I really think that if the price was good enoughf, a lot of people would try it and see all the great games they have released so far and might consider the NX. But as it is now, who will say the NX is a first day purchase?


Well, it might help a little bit if they took it out, but only for the fact that the system could sell for something like $199.99. But really, the damage is done at this point. It's not like taking it out is going to bring the thing back from death.

Oh and, what about Splatoon? You can't even play the game without the gamepad lol. That would be a problem.



eva01beserk on 05 September 2015
Samus Aran said:
eva01beserk said:
Samus Aran said:

You haven't played Splatoon.

It makes great use of the gamepad.

Isnt the only things available on the screan a map, then when you die you can click a friend and warp to him? something that can be done with a list, since it only happens at reaspan, and a regular minimap on the big screen.

It uses a combination of gyro controls and analog sticks for perfect shooter controls that are much more fun to play with than your traditional dual analog shooters. You can't do that with just a Wii U Pro controller. You can jump to your friend or a specially placed beacon whenever you want, not just at respawn. You also need the gamepad to use the ink strike special ability. The arcade minigames while you wait in lobbies in between matches are also played on the gamepad screen.

The wii motion plus has all thouse gyro controls and buttons and its still compatible with the wii u. And I got to say, for me shooters where never better than when I played them with the wii motion plus. The rest are just buttons, including the special ability. No need to have a touch screen when there are buttons to spare.



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TheSting on 05 September 2015

*lose* the gamepad



eva01beserk on 05 September 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:
eva01beserk said:


Waiting it could be worse. Who knows how manny fans nitnedo has lost, if they can gain a few more fans before the next one hits it would be better. I really think that if the price was good enoughf, a lot of people would try it and see all the great games they have released so far and might consider the NX. But as it is now, who will say the NX is a first day purchase?


Well, it might help a little bit if they took it out, but only for the fact that the system could sell for something like $199.99. But really, the damage is done at this point. It's not like taking it out is going to bring the thing back from death.

Oh and, what about Splatoon? You can't even play the game without the gamepad lol. That would be a problem.

Im not talking about bringing the console back from the dead, just holding off the release of the NX a bit more. If they cut the life of the Wii U so short, a lot of fans wont be happy and might not decide to buy the next console.

Is there not a 2 player dojo mode on splatoon where one palyer uses the pro controller(I dont know about the wii motion plus, I love the thing)? So the gamepad is not so necesary on that game then.



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eva01beserk on 05 September 2015
TheSting said:
*lose* the gamepad

Was going to edit that, But now Ill keep it that way. :p



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KLAMarine on 05 September 2015

I like my gamepad.



eva01beserk on 05 September 2015
KLAMarine said:
I like my gamepad.


Gamepad could be great, but its used in very few titles. No need to force on ppeople if its not being used.



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