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Forums - Politics Discussion - Pope Francis allows chance of forgiveness to woman who have committed abortions for a limited time (Year of Mercy)

AbbathTheGrim on 01 September 2015

Pope Francis has authorized all Catholic priests around the World to forgive the "sin of abortion" during the church's "Year of Mercy."

Woman who have committed abortion are usually condemned as "moral evil" and are excommunicated and are only forgiven with the permission of a bishop.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/01/europe/pope-francis-abortion/



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Esiar on 01 September 2015

In my opinion this is silly. I don't think there should be a year of mercy, when God can forgive all sin, even according to Catholics.



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MotherBound on 01 September 2015

This is stupid, see Esia's post above



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Esiar on 02 September 2015
twintail said:
Esiar said:
In my opinion this is silly. I don't think there should be a year of mercy, when God can forgive all sin, even according to Catholics.

 

MotherBound said:
This is stupid, see Esia's post above

 

God forgives all sins, but members of the Catholic faith are asked to go to a priest to ask for forgiveness and have your sins absolved. You seek forgiveness, and you get it. That is the reason confession exists as a Cahtolic (I am not sure about other christian groups) pillar. 

As stated in the article, abortion apparently leads to excommunication. This in turn means that not any priest can forgive you for the act of abortion because being excomunicated means you lose rights as a member of any religious sect. Forgiveness for an abortion is usally done only by a Bishop, but that has changed somewhat over the last ew years.

That is the whole pint of this 'year of mercy'. It is the Pope basically saying that any priest can forgive anyone seeking forgiveness for having had an abortion. 

This will only apply to anyone who feels they want forgiveness for an abortion 8that is anyone who still has guilt over it). Obviously if you are not looking for forgiveness from God or whoever, then this message from the Pope has no real bearing on you. 

While God may forgive, its not a one way road. The act of seeking forgiveness, from confession, is what allows you to 'atone' for your sins so to speak. 

But I really don't think that makes much sense. To me it sounds contradictory. I don't see how they can believe that the blood of Christ washes away all your sins if you believe and that you have to ask a priest to get your sins absolved. 



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Burek on 02 September 2015

For a limited time only?
I wonder if they will have a price cut when this offer expires? Maybe unbundle Hail Mary from the pennance and sell it separately? Or introduce Confessional Booth Access subscription plan to the habitual sinners?

Women, better hurry up and get pregnant and have that abortion while the offer still stands.



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Kagerow on 02 September 2015
Esiar said:
twintail said:

 

God forgives all sins, but members of the Catholic faith are asked to go to a priest to ask for forgiveness and have your sins absolved. You seek forgiveness, and you get it. That is the reason confession exists as a Cahtolic (I am not sure about other christian groups) pillar. 

As stated in the article, abortion apparently leads to excommunication. This in turn means that not any priest can forgive you for the act of abortion because being excomunicated means you lose rights as a member of any religious sect. Forgiveness for an abortion is usally done only by a Bishop, but that has changed somewhat over the last ew years.

That is the whole pint of this 'year of mercy'. It is the Pope basically saying that any priest can forgive anyone seeking forgiveness for having had an abortion. 

This will only apply to anyone who feels they want forgiveness for an abortion 8that is anyone who still has guilt over it). Obviously if you are not looking for forgiveness from God or whoever, then this message from the Pope has no real bearing on you. 

While God may forgive, its not a one way road. The act of seeking forgiveness, from confession, is what allows you to 'atone' for your sins so to speak. 

But I really don't think that makes much sense. To me it sounds contradictory. I don't see how they can believe that the blood of Christ washes away all your sins if you believe and that you have to ask a priest to get your sins absolved. 


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Michelasso on 02 September 2015
Esiar said:
twintail said:

 

God forgives all sins, but members of the Catholic faith are asked to go to a priest to ask for forgiveness and have your sins absolved. You seek forgiveness, and you get it. That is the reason confession exists as a Cahtolic (I am not sure about other christian groups) pillar. 

As stated in the article, abortion apparently leads to excommunication. This in turn means that not any priest can forgive you for the act of abortion because being excomunicated means you lose rights as a member of any religious sect. Forgiveness for an abortion is usally done only by a Bishop, but that has changed somewhat over the last ew years.

That is the whole pint of this 'year of mercy'. It is the Pope basically saying that any priest can forgive anyone seeking forgiveness for having had an abortion. 

This will only apply to anyone who feels they want forgiveness for an abortion 8that is anyone who still has guilt over it). Obviously if you are not looking for forgiveness from God or whoever, then this message from the Pope has no real bearing on you. 

While God may forgive, its not a one way road. The act of seeking forgiveness, from confession, is what allows you to 'atone' for your sins so to speak. 

But I really don't think that makes much sense. To me it sounds contradictory. I don't see how they can believe that the blood of Christ washes away all your sins if you believe and that you have to ask a priest to get your sins absolved. 


Because to be forgiven one has to repent and also must show the true repentance to someone who can give the absolution. Which would be a priest, since shrinks, judges or lawyers aren't recognized by the Catholic Church (and thus by God). Also one isn't allowed to go to holy communion without having confessed first. 

Also it is interesting how Freud and Jung didn't invent much. The catholics have been doing that kind of "therapy" for centuries. Even for free! ^_^



swidon on 02 September 2015

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Proxy-Pie on 02 September 2015

Not much of a set belief if you're gonna make "exceptions for a limited time".



ps3-sales! on 02 September 2015

That sounds like an Onion article.



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