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97alexk said:

When Nintendo decides to be less innovative, thats the time when i give up on gaming, because innovation is the only thing that will bring something to the next level, Good innovations dont always sell that well, because of confusion and marketing, doesnt mean its bad. You people are too caught up with it supposedly being to sell good you didnt realize what the Wii U means, for the gaming industry. and nintendo as a whole. People love to just randomly hate on things. Im not attacking you, but this thread is at the bottom of worthless threads. Sorry, but seriously, BEING DUMB FOR TRYING TO INNOVATE?? WOW


People have the misconception that innovate means a silly tablet controller or a move wand.

We eat with a knive and a fork, does anybody feel the need that this tools have to be improved or something? They just work.

The majority of the people like regular controllers.

They have to be innovative with their games, not the hardware.



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The Wii U is far from innovative though. It's just a big DS, with the only difference is that the screens can move independant of each other, which hasn't been used in that many games. Other than that, there really isn't much to the Wii U. In my opinion, the Wii U isn't different enough.
Unless you're a Nintendo fan, why would anyone buy a Wii U over a PS4/Xbox One? The prices aren't that far apart and the PS4/Xbox One has better graphics, better features and more games. The Wii U doesn't really have a big enough feature to stand apart from the others, unlike the Wii.
The Wii had a very different control scheme and very different games, from both Nintendo and third parties. There was more incentive to buy both a Wii and a PS3/Xbox 360.
The Wii U does have a controller with a screen in it, but how much difference does it make. It's handy for off-screen play, but you're better off with a Vita/3ds then.
That's my opinion though. I just don't think people would consider a Nintendo console unless it has something radicaly different.



 

AEGRO said:
97alexk said:

When Nintendo decides to be less innovative, thats the time when i give up on gaming, because innovation is the only thing that will bring something to the next level, Good innovations dont always sell that well, because of confusion and marketing, doesnt mean its bad. You people are too caught up with it supposedly being to sell good you didnt realize what the Wii U means, for the gaming industry. and nintendo as a whole. People love to just randomly hate on things. Im not attacking you, but this thread is at the bottom of worthless threads. Sorry, but seriously, BEING DUMB FOR TRYING TO INNOVATE?? WOW


People have the misconception that innovate means a silly tablet controller or a move wand.

We eat with a knive and a fork, does anybody feel the need that this tools have to be improved or something? They just work.

The majority of the people like regular controllers.

They have to be innovative with their games, not the hardware.

This is basically what I was trying to convey. Great statement. 

 

Make games like Splatoon and Super Mario 3d world. Hell, include a gamepad. But also include a normal controller with it. 

 

Keep the industry pc/ps4/xbone online standard and make a console powerful enough to at least keep up with 3rd party games. 



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That would be a fair assessment if the Wii U was actually innovative, which in my honest opinion, it really isn't. The software isn't innovative (although very well made, no doubt) and neither is the hardware. I'll look through this thread later to see where I can find this idea that the Wii U is "innovative."



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Random_Matt said:
Here comes the Nintendo knights.


And what's wrong with that? We enjoy the company because they're different. I don't see an issue with that and I don't see an issue with innovation.



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burninmylight said:
I don't want a Nintendo console that's exactly like other consoles. I'm not saying Nintendo hasn't done a lot of dumb things over the past 20 years that it would love to take back, and I'm not saying I like all of Nintendo's "innovative" ideas. But I can appreciate a company for at least trying to give me some variety in my options.

Also, innovation is not necessarily a barrier to some of the things you mentioned. The GamePad has nothing to do why we don't yet have a proper cross-buy or cross-save system, achievements or cross-game chat, for example. It still would only have a maximum of 32GB of internal storage (even though I'm personally fine with the idea of a cheaper console with your choice to buy more memory, this turns a lot of folks off). I highly doubt the Wii U would have faired much better without the GamePad, because what's the selling point then? It would still be based on a different architecture than the PS4 and X1, it would still be lacking those aforementioned online features that modern gamers demand, and Nintendo still would not be moneyhatting third parties for exclusive games nearly as much as it could or should.

It would pretty much be another GameCube, just like it is now.

The thing is the Gamepad isn't helping sales right now. So it's better off, if it wasn't created in the first place. The money would go somewhere else in its arcitecture. They could of put a HDD in it. Stuck the AC Adapter inside the system. Or had the GC ports back in etc.



Well... no. What you dislike is a gimmick. Innovation is what we are lacking nowadays in my opinion. Games are too similar to each other. Gimmicks are bad, innovation is good.



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Innovation it's always good even when the market doesn't buy into it. It creates news ideas to play and pushes the industry forward.



burninmylight said:
I don't want a Nintendo console that's exactly like other consoles. I'm not saying Nintendo hasn't done a lot of dumb things over the past 20 years that it would love to take back, and I'm not saying I like all of Nintendo's "innovative" ideas. But I can appreciate a company for at least trying to give me some variety in my options.

Also, innovation is not necessarily a barrier to some of the things you mentioned. The GamePad has nothing to do why we don't yet have a proper cross-buy or cross-save system, achievements or cross-game chat, for example. It still would only have a maximum of 32GB of internal storage (even though I'm personally fine with the idea of a cheaper console with your choice to buy more memory, this turns a lot of folks off). I highly doubt the Wii U would have faired much better without the GamePad, because what's the selling point then? It would still be based on a different architecture than the PS4 and X1, it would still be lacking those aforementioned online features that modern gamers demand, and Nintendo still would not be moneyhatting third parties for exclusive games nearly as much as it could or should.

It would pretty much be another GameCube, just like it is now.


I just wish I didn't have two buy two consoles every gen. I love my WIIU, but I had to buy a PS4 in order to play third party games. I like the GamePad idea, but I would exchange it in a heartbeat for a more powerful console that could run games like Batman AK. Nintendo shouldn't stop innovating. However it would be nice if they stop thinking that they're not competing with Sony and Microsoft. If NX is not as powerful as a PS4, then WIIU will problaby be the last nintendo console I own.



AEGRO said:
97alexk said:

When Nintendo decides to be less innovative, thats the time when i give up on gaming, because innovation is the only thing that will bring something to the next level, Good innovations dont always sell that well, because of confusion and marketing, doesnt mean its bad. You people are too caught up with it supposedly being to sell good you didnt realize what the Wii U means, for the gaming industry. and nintendo as a whole. People love to just randomly hate on things. Im not attacking you, but this thread is at the bottom of worthless threads. Sorry, but seriously, BEING DUMB FOR TRYING TO INNOVATE?? WOW


People have the misconception that innovate means a silly tablet controller or a move wand.

We eat with a knive and a fork, does anybody feel the need that this tools have to be improved or something? They just work.

The majority of the people like regular controllers.

They have to be innovative with their games, not the hardware.

Using a fork and spoon was a bad comparison, because you dont need too much for it uses, but in an entertainment industry, you always have to bring out new things. I also prefer regular controllers, but i love when once in a while some crazy new comes out, wich in many peoples eyes is innovative: Nintendo have and still are incredibly innovative with their games. Aswell as their second party studios. Innovating hardware can lead to innovative games, thats how it works. All those innovative Wii U games, wich are fantastic have some use from the gamepad wich makes them unique and innovative, like ZOMBIU, without the gamepad zombiU feels like a bunch of nothing. Not all Wii U games have had a great use of the gamepad, but some have made it work. Look at Wii Sports, their controller was innovative, like nothing you seen before, and it sold million just because of the innovation.