Random_Matt said: If Xbox stops putting the games on PC, it may sell more. There is no incentive to buy one, Xbox is being phased out in the long term, it's over. |
Is that why games sell worse on the PC by a lot? Titan Fall is already dead on PC.
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Random_Matt said: If Xbox stops putting the games on PC, it may sell more. There is no incentive to buy one, Xbox is being phased out in the long term, it's over. |
Is that why games sell worse on the PC by a lot? Titan Fall is already dead on PC.
JustBeingReal said: As has been shown over multiple releases Halo isn't so much a system seller as a game that can move units of software, but the install base is already on the platform. I doubt Halo 5 will buck the trend and move even a quarter of a million XB1's. I don't get where this belief that Halo is a system seller comes from, the game sells because the install base is already on the platform, if that's the case the it sells to existing XBox owners, but not because the game is coming to the platform. |
I don't get where this belief comes from that a game can only be a system seller if the system sales dramatically increase in the week of the game release. A good game is also a reason to finally buy a new system in the following week... and the week after that... and even months later.
But if the whole Halo install base is already on the Xbox One, that's the best what can happen to Microsoft... over ten million Halo 5 sales confirmed. ;)
Wagram said: This generation has defied everything that is logic so I wouldn't be so sure. Obviously, Microsoft has the better software lineup for this Fall. I don't believe that's even disputable. However, the PS4 has been dominating to such a point where the lead is at least 11-12m+ units now. That's a lot of ground to cover because Sony starts their big lineup in 2016. In addition, there will be the Japanese exclusives such as Nier 2, Star Ocean 6, etc. It will be a very interesting holiday for sure. Hopefully, we'll have some numbers :/ |
Of course it's disputable, it all comes down to preference, XB1 only has a single exclusive coming this Fall, The Tomorrow Children or Fat Princess could both rate higher than Halo, there's also Kill Strain which is likely a Fall game now as well, people don't have to pay to play it either, it's also a full on PS4 exclusive, created by a major 1st party studio (Sony San Diego), people can just play it once they get their systems online.
Sony has had way more exclusives throughout the entire length of the systems life, those games are still available on the platform.
XB1 won't gain any ground globally this Fall, PS4 will sell more just as it did last holiday. Best case scenario for XB1 the platform comes close to Sony's level of sales, but I doubt it. Even with XBox One still having COD, the MCC and Forza, along with Sunset Overdrive and a boat load of holiday deals PS4 still outsold XB1 by a good 1.8M more.
This year PS4 has more exclusives, all of the major 3rd party deals like Battlefront, COD, Metal Gear, Mad Max, likely equal holiday deals, I doubt XB1 will get anywhere near to PS4's level of sales and Sony also has way more major exclusives coming next spring, plus a tonne more exclusives overall.
PS4 has nothing to worry about.
Snoopy said:
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Titanfall is also dead on XBO lol so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.
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twintail said:
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You're trying to make Nintendo look bad because they actually support two platforms instead of Sony who gave up on the Vita after only a year?
Besides, you included games that were available on two or more platforms, hardly exclusive... When did the definition of exclusive change to "not on Wii U/XBONE"?
As for UC Collection, hardly a new game. I got a bigger graphical upgrade by playing Xenoblade Chronicles on the gamepad instead of an HD TV than you will with UC Collection compared to the original trilogy.
JustBeingReal said: Of course it's disputable, it all comes down to preference, XB1 only has a single exclusive coming this Fall, The Tomorrow Children or Fat Princess could both rate higher than Halo, there's also Kill Strain which is likely a Fall game now as well, people don't have to pay to play it either, it's also a full on PS4 exclusive, created by a major 1st party studio (Sony San Diego), people can just play it once they get their systems online. |
That simply isn't true and regardless of what Halo 5 scores critically, that is a big ass game for the platform.
Conina said:
I don't get where this belief comes from that a game can only be a system seller if the system sales dramatically increase in the week of the game release. A good game is also a reason to finally buy a new system in the following week... and the week after that... and even months later. But if the whole Halo install base is already on the Xbox One, that's the best what can happen to Microsoft... over ten million Halo 5 sales confirmed. ;) |
The point is that the effect on hardware isn't there, Halo isn't going to start moving a tonne of hardware sales, that's the point.
XB1 is going to sell just like it already has been, that's the point, Halo 5 isn't going to boost things much higher. If the game moved several hundred more units of hardware then that would be the ideal situation, like Destiny did for PS4 last year, it isn't going to happen though, not for Halo 5 on XB1.
Of course a game can impact sales of hardware over the long term, but considering that Halo tends to have a pretty quick drop off that's probably not going to happen with Halo 5 either.
Wagram said:
That simply isn't true and regardless of what Halo 5 scores critically, that is a big ass game for the platform. |
Yes it is, there aren't any other exclusives coming to XB1 this Fall, Forza is a summer release, because it releases on the 15th, not after the 22nd and Fable Legends is releasing on PC, Rise of the Tomb Raider releases on 360 and is also coming to PC and PS4 next year, there's literally only Halo 5.
Halo 5 doesn't have the effect on system sales that people think, I gave proof of that in a past post I made above.
Wagram said:
That simply isn't true and regardless of what Halo 5 scores critically, that is a big ass game for the platform. |
It's crazy how people can even say Fat Princess can compete with Halo 5 because it might get a higher score on metacritic. More people will have fun with Halo 5 than with some highly rated artsy indie game like Flower, Bastion, Guacamelee, Runbow and Journey combined (games that are reviewed against much lower standards than retail games).
Samus Aran said:
It's crazy how people can even say Fat Princess can compete with Halo 5 because it might get a higher score on metacritic. More people will have fun with Halo 5 than with some highly rated artsy indie game like Flower, Bastion, Guacamelee, Runbow and Journey combined (games that are reviewed against much lower standards than retail games). |
I would hope they would be scored against different standards, you could buy 4 of those for the price of Halo 5...
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