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Samus Aran on 31 August 2015
Zoombael said:


It doesn't matter how you put it. Sony (PS4) has more exclusives the whole year 2015 or Q4 2015 than Nintendo (Wii U) and MS (Xbox One) combined. "Exclusives" that don't appear on any other plattform in any form. Like Fable Legends, Below, TR: Rising and Rodea the Sky Soldier. Or the Uncharted Collection and even Teraway Unfolded.

And why there should be handhelds included although it's clearly about stationary consoles only... well, only satan knows.

Why don't you make a list about these exclusives then?

Oh and according to your logic Persona 5 and Dragon Quest Heroes don't count.

Rodea the Sky Soldier is a Wii U only game btw, the Wii version is only included in the first print of the game and is completely different than the Wii U version.



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Eddie_Raja on 31 August 2015
ps3-sales! said:

Title. 

Is it worth Sony taking an obvious loss in the games/exclusive department compared to Microsoft and saving the big guns for 2016?

The Xbone is clearly prepared to gain some marketshare this year with some pretty big games. While Sony has had a decent 2015 and will continue to do so; the "huge blockbuster" games just aren't there this holiday. Bloodborne was in March so you can't use that. 

Anyway. I guess we will see. 

Personally I think with a intelligently timed price cut, Sony will easily be able to match Microsoft if not outsell them besides not having the games advantage. 

Enough at least to tide them over until 2016's huge Ps4 games come out. 

 

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Losing what?!   Until Dawn just came out, Uncharted Collection is about to, and Bloodborne dominated early 2015.  FO4, BF, and MGSV are FAR more than enough to make this one of the best gaming holidays of all time.

It was incredibly prudent to allow some games more times to ferment well we have more games than we can play atm.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Eddie_Raja on 31 August 2015
Drakrami said:
Samus Aran said:
Normchacho said:
Samus Aran said:
Normchacho said:


Are you intentionally trying to be misleading, or did you not read that link you just posted?

 

"the set of PS4 remasters will also sprinkle some of the gameplay refinements Naughty Dog implemented in later chapters back throughout the trilogy. Developer Bluepoint plans to keep the changes subtle, but as long as Drake's Fortune loses its horrid motion-controlled grenade throwing, the battle's already half won."

He's talking about gameplay changes. Duh...

So was I. Read up on the discussion bro.

As for the graphics, go look at comparison videos, it's not hard to do.

You know what, lets get this back on track...

You have this weird habbit of trying to shift the conversation to suit your narrative. His comment was clearly about the PS4 having more exclusive games for 4th quarter. You also have this habit of bringing up quality, and then dismissing any good game that, once again, goes against your chosen narrative.

He said that SONY has more exclusives than NINTENDO and MS combined. Which is false. Even if we're going to ignore handhelds it is a false statement.

And he quite arbitrarily picked a date so he could exclude an xbox one game that releases one week before the Summer ends lol. If we're going to have this discussion than at least include all the yet to be released games.

Upcoming "exclusives" for Nintendo/MS:

Nintendo

Super Mario Maker

Star Fox Zero

Yoshi's Woolly World

Fatal Frame V

Fast Racing Neo

Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash

Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival

Devil's Third

Rodea the Sky Soldier

Xenoblade Chronicles X

MS:

Tomb Raider: Rising

Halo 5

Forza Motorsports 6

Fable Legends

Below


I love how this topic is about Sony and Microsoft and then a Nintendo fan comes in. Says to himself, hmmmm where do I fit in? And then goes totally off topic. rofl. 

+1 lol



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Eddie_Raja on 31 August 2015
maxleresistant said:

People never take into account that manufacturers make lots of money out of the royalties.

Did you see the numbers when it comes to third party games? Between One and PS4 there is a 2:1 ratio in favor of playstation.

I'm really not worried for sony, they could stop making first party games and still sell lots of PS4. People just love the machine


Exacly.  Does anyone remember the Fall of 2008 on PS3?  There was Resistance 2, LBP, Valkaria Chronicles, and SOCOM.  But it didn't matter because FC2, Dead Space, FO3, Mirrors Edge, and Bioshock also came out and destroyed sales.

They learned from their mistakes, and they are preventing a gaming drought in 2016 for PS4 gamers.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Dr.Henry_Killinger on 31 August 2015

3rd party already has this year.



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maxleresistant on 31 August 2015
Eddie_Raja said:
maxleresistant said:

People never take into account that manufacturers make lots of money out of the royalties.

Did you see the numbers when it comes to third party games? Between One and PS4 there is a 2:1 ratio in favor of playstation.

I'm really not worried for sony, they could stop making first party games and still sell lots of PS4. People just love the machine


Exacly.  Does anyone remember the Fall of 2008 on PS3?  There was Resistance 2, LBP, Valkaria Chronicles, and SOCOM.  But it didn't matter because FC2, Dead Space, FO3, Mirrors Edge, and Bioshock also came out and destroyed sales.

They learned from their mistakes, and they are preventing a gaming drought in 2016 for PS4 gamers.


I think today, exclusivities don't matter as much as they use to. Third party games rules the market right now. Halo, Mario and Pokemon are probably the last two frist party franchise that are in the same category.
That's why I don't get that people say it doesn't matter if Nintendo has lost the support of third parties. That is just crazy



Normchacho on 31 August 2015

I just realized something. The Xbox One has two true exclusives left for this year. Forza in September, and Halo in October. But that's it. Fable, and Below are also on PC, and ROTTR is timed and also on 360.

All this hubub over two games...



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Madword on 31 August 2015

Halo is MS's biggest game this Xmas, Fable will fail badly (seriously it will flop bad... no one asked for a 4player fable MP game), while Forza will do the usual and have to be bundled to get the millions of sales.

Tomb Raider is a strange one, it in theory should do well, but the console that it did well on, they have excluded, not only that it's coming out the same day as Fallout (very surprised that the dates not been moved)... even worse for TR is that MS is marketing both, and guess which one they are going to support more... yep Halo.

I love exclusives as much as the next person, but this Xmas is all about Halo and third parties in FO4, COD, AC and SW Battlefront. Sony do not need to worry as long as they do bundle deals when they need to.

I buy lot's of games and my wallet is in pain this year, so anyone who says there aren't enough games on PS4 is frankly crazy. The end user doesn't care if they are exclusive, 2nd party or Multiplatform.



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Zoombael on 31 August 2015
Samus Aran said:
Zoombael said:
 


It doesn't matter how you put it. Sony (PS4) has more exclusives the whole year 2015 or Q4 2015 than Nintendo (Wii U) and MS (Xbox One) combined. "Exclusives" that don't appear on any other plattform in any form. Like Fable Legends, Below, TR: Rising and Rodea the Sky Soldier. Or the Uncharted Collection and even Teraway Unfolded.

And why there should be handhelds included although it's clearly about stationary consoles only... well, only satan knows.

Why don't you make a list about these exclusives then?

Oh and according to your logic Persona 5 and Dragon Quest Heroes don't count.

Rodea the Sky Soldier is a Wii U only game btw, the Wii version is only included in the first print of the game and is completely different than the Wii U version.


Okay, honeybunch, only for you, i, the holder of the sacred and holiest secret manifest of manifests of console exclusives, will reveal to you the most secret list of lists... as soon as i am home from work. pinky promise.

but beware! you, and only you, are allowed to have a look at the list. anyone else who dares to direct their gaze upon it will suffer the consequences, utterly and brutally!



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Samus Aran on 31 August 2015
Zoombael said:
Samus Aran said:
Zoombael said:
 


It doesn't matter how you put it. Sony (PS4) has more exclusives the whole year 2015 or Q4 2015 than Nintendo (Wii U) and MS (Xbox One) combined. "Exclusives" that don't appear on any other plattform in any form. Like Fable Legends, Below, TR: Rising and Rodea the Sky Soldier. Or the Uncharted Collection and even Teraway Unfolded.

And why there should be handhelds included although it's clearly about stationary consoles only... well, only satan knows.

Why don't you make a list about these exclusives then?

Oh and according to your logic Persona 5 and Dragon Quest Heroes don't count.

Rodea the Sky Soldier is a Wii U only game btw, the Wii version is only included in the first print of the game and is completely different than the Wii U version.


Okay, honeybunch, only for you, i, the holder of the sacred and holiest secret manifest of manifests of console exclusives, will reveal to you the most secret list of lists... as soon as i am home from work. pinky promise.

but beware! you, and only you, are allowed to have a look at the list. anyone else who dares to direct their gaze upon it will suffer the consequences, utterly and brutaly.

Thought so, not many exclusives on the PS4 for the rest of the year. :)