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spemanig said:
JRPGfan said:
So.... gamepad for party chat in online games?


Seems so. Great idea, honestly.

But most importantly, it's good to finally have people shut up about how "there's no way in hell the Gamepad is returning with the NX" when, in reality, there was never any way it wasn't.


I will leave the forum forever if there is a new gamepad for their next home console. It will NEVER happen... ever. Maybe BC with Wii-U's gamepad but there is no way in HELL they will ever make that mistake again.



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With all of this rumours becoming reality i see a hright future for nintendo



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An exemplary game system includes a monitor for displaying a game image or a television program, and a terminal device having a camera, a microphone, and a loudspeaker. When a user is playing a game or viewing a television program by using the monitor, another user can have chat by using the terminal device.”

Using external device as a chat interface...

You can chat with friends, manage friends list, buy games, etc on Xbox One via Smartglass, and do the same things on PlayStation 4 using the PlayStation companion app, feel free to show me a nintendo "twist" here.

“An information processing system is capable of communicating with an external apparatus via a network. The information processing system is capable of operating in at least three operation modes including: a first mode; a second mode, which consumes less power than the first mode; and a third mode, which consumes less power than the second mode and where the communication via the network is not performed.”


Both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 have three power modes, On, Suspend and Standby, the "external apparatus via a network" is just "communicating with a server", when in Suspend network functions still work for downloading updates and games, when in Standby the network functionality is turned off too, again feel free to show me a nintendo "twist" here.

Fact of the matter is, if Microsoft or Sony were applying for patents on things that the WiiU or 3DS does, the Nintendo crowd would be having a field day pulling up the usual "sony / microsoft copies!" images, but since it's Nintendo, the one that's supposed to be the innovative one, it gets a free pass.

Mind you, when it comes from a site that posts something like this as "news" - http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/rumor-sony-starting-campaign-damage-wii-u/ the source being a mind numbingly idiotic fanboy called Tilmen who has, on multiple occasions been shown to be completely full of shit - it pretty much says it all.



spemanig said:

binary solo said:

The only possibly unique thing is how Nintendo will implement them.


Which was 100% obvious to me, and which invalidates 50% of the stupidly sarcastic replies in this thread.

Some of the replies in this thread make my head itch. Like obviously Nintendo aren't patenting party chat. They're patenting their implentation of party chat. As in with the Gamepad and whatever weird gimmicks they throw in to make it unique. They aren't patenting copies of existing ideas, they are patenting their unique twists on existing ideas.

I am very skeptical that you can patent such things. You might be taking a unique approach to something that already exists but that doesn't make it patentable. In order for a new twist on an existing technology or function to be patentable you've got to be able to show that what you're doing is not a reasonably obvious extension of what's already out there. What I read in the OP does not appear to meet that criteria. But there might be more detail which does show how this is a really left field approach that no one would come up with except for the brilliant creative minds at Nintendo. I'm a very hard sell when it comes to new patents on things that already exist. I pretty much dismiss the validity of all Apple's touchscreen functionality patents because as soon as touch screen tech was invented (and patented, which was not by Apple) eveything they ended up patenting (like swipe to unlock and pinch to zoom) is a reasonably obvious extension of the tech.

The patent system is out of control, IMO, with patents of highly dubious merit being submitted and, it seems, getting through because patent offices don't have the resourcing to properly assess each patent application. I can understand if Nintendo is submitting patents defensively, which is to say if they have a patent registered then patent trolls will have a harder time trying to extort money out of Nintendo. That's probably a fair defensive tactic, but it is merely a symptom of a patent system that needs serious reform.



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Paatar said:

This is about the power of the consoles. Soley the power.

This just further proves my point that if the main reason was power, than 360 and PS3 would not have gotten the games. BUT THEY DID. Why? Because of their install bases. Yet they are weaker than the Wii U. Therefore, it is the install base and not the power of the Wii U. 


I never said the main reason was power. I said a major reason was power. And it is. And it's installed base. It's both. And it's demographic. It's all three. And many more.

It's a complex issue and its stupid to blame just one thing, but its just as stupid to pretend its not partly one thing either. If the Wii U was on par with the other systems, it would have significantly more support. There's no argument against that, so yes. It is about the power. But it'd be stupid to think it was only about the power.



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AlfredoTurkey said:

I will leave the forum forever if there is a new gamepad for their next home console. It will NEVER happen... ever. Maybe BC with Wii-U's gamepad but there is no way in HELL they will ever make that mistake again.


I can't tell if you're being serious.



I3LuEI3omI3eR said:
I strongly believe Nintendo is making a Nintablet (Watch me get sued in a couple of months for saying this ) along with a docking mechanism for it to connect to TVs and for you to play you own software. Could be wrong about the Docking mech... but still sounds good, no?

I would seriously consider buying a Nintablet (Ha, ha you didn't copyright it but I have...right Nitnendo gimme money), if it dual booted with Android to run just like a normal tablet when you don't want to play nintendo games.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

Its all coming together! Look forward to Sony copying it and unveiling it in 2018.



Mike321 said:
Paatar said:


I've said this before and I'll say it again, power is not the reason 3rd parties left the Wii U.


Is not the only problem but yes lack of power is the main reason as to why the wii u lacks third party games

Not true at all, main reason why 3rd parties abandoned Wii U is terrible Wii U sales. People are forgeting that Wii U in their first year had games like Fifa, Batman, Call Of Duty, Assassins Creed, Need For Speed, Madden NFL, NBA 2K13, Mass Effect, Darksiders II, Sniper Elite, Resident Evil Revelations...but after terrible Wii U sales after launch, in 1st year all abandoned them.

Of course, not helped the facts that most of the 3rd parties are always selling worst on Nintendo platforms and that Wii U architecture isn't so simple for developing and porting games.

 

So basically for better 3rd party support than on Wii U, Nintendo needs to have better sales of hardware and as simple as possible architecture that allow 3rd parties easy porting games. I am pretty sure that NX will sell much better than Wii U and we already know that NX will using ARM or x86.



binary solo said:
I don't understand what it patentable about these things. All of the functions described currently exist in devices on the market. The only possibly unique thing is how Nintendo will implement them. As far as I know differently combining existing technologies or functions isn't patentable.

I think that is a point of this patents that already exist on market.