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Emperorbach said:
binary solo said:

I dunno. As the trailer implies, if they just did a reality show of Mel Gibson it would probably be an OK sequel.

Best bit of the trailer was about all the wasting of the 2 most scarce resources in this post apocalyptic world. Surely there's a better way of distributing this stuff.

Are we sure Furiosa's first name isn't Maxine?

Furiosa is a bastardisation of furious, which is another word for mad, and Max is Max. So Mad is Furiosa and Max is the sidekick.


anyhow i always found it unfair that people had gripes with furiousa being the main character

 

I think the movie was great with Furiosa carrying it. It was just a mis-use of the franchise name. The name attracted a certain amount of audience under somewhat false pretenses. But people mostly walked out satisfied with the product they got, so no harm no foul. But the movie would have been more appropriately named simply "Fury Road". 



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Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
Emperorbach said:

except it wsant age of ultron was the dictionary definition of dissapointment

ultron was pretty meh

all the scenes and quips ( which they were too many off ) all felt better in the trailers

there was too much forced into the movie with lttle pay off

vision was cool but everyone else was meh 

quicksilvers death felt kinda cheap

also incredibly incredibly silly plot holes that made no sense , loool ultron really made a bomb he had to push instead of wirelessly

why not create chaos in the world , crash stocks empty bank accounts , leave the avengers distracted

sha sha it was serviceable , BUT MEDIOCRE

just because he was in the internet doesn't mean he had control of it all.  He could just travel his essense through it.  Jarvis stopped him from getting nuke codes and the viewer can assume he was stopping anything else Ultron was going for.  Not to mention Ultron before Vision was stolen wanted to subjugate humanity and make them change not destroy them.  He also had an ego like a robot with emotions should and wanted to beat them head to head.  He was also very immature.  He was given all the factual information but his emotions were completely out of whack.  These deeper parts of the character go completely over most people who hate the film's heads when watching but they are there nonetheless.  See his dialogue ("stay away from me" and "nononono they'll understand once they see they'll understand")  he's very conflicted until the end and even wants to make Wanda approve in sort of an Oedipus complex sort of way.

How is everyone meh now?  The characters with solo movies are still just as awesome as ever and my character and Steve have evolved in interesting ways that is clearly leading into Civil War.  Vision was a great new addition.  Hawkeye and Black Widow were given deeper characters and Hawkeye had some of the best one liners in the film (nobody would know...nobody lol)

The payoff will come in sequels to the stuff I think you're talking about (Thor well?).  There was plenty here to stand alone (some people complain about too much in the film then complain about not enough resolution so go figure lol) so it's not like they sacrificed anything in the film.  It's meant to be a part of a bigger universe and as we're seeing with MoS leading into BvS this kinda stuff is going to be done over multiple films now.


everyone was pretty meh , there wasnt any avenger i lied

what i really disliked was the lack of consequences for tony and bruce at the end , they near damned ended the world 

once again the thor nonsense was out of place , was amazing spiderman movie being AN AD FOR A NEXT movie detrcts from the current one especially when it ruins the pace of the movie

Bruce and Natasha was a bad idea. people got the idea her and clint could be something in a1. then maybe her and cap in winter soldier then the unneeded romance in this film

ultrons immaturity is what made him an annoying villian , was supposed to be this extemely brilliant ai but his plan sucked bum tbh

the movie suffered from poor pacing, over stuffing , half assed themes , OH AND SOME IFFY AS HELL CGI 

but to each his own you liked it that great , i didnt 



Emperorbach said:
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:

just because he was in the internet doesn't mean he had control of it all.  He could just travel his essense through it.  Jarvis stopped him from getting nuke codes and the viewer can assume he was stopping anything else Ultron was going for.  Not to mention Ultron before Vision was stolen wanted to subjugate humanity and make them change not destroy them.  He also had an ego like a robot with emotions should and wanted to beat them head to head.  He was also very immature.  He was given all the factual information but his emotions were completely out of whack.  These deeper parts of the character go completely over most people who hate the film's heads when watching but they are there nonetheless.  See his dialogue ("stay away from me" and "nononono they'll understand once they see they'll understand")  he's very conflicted until the end and even wants to make Wanda approve in sort of an Oedipus complex sort of way.

How is everyone meh now?  The characters with solo movies are still just as awesome as ever and my character and Steve have evolved in interesting ways that is clearly leading into Civil War.  Vision was a great new addition.  Hawkeye and Black Widow were given deeper characters and Hawkeye had some of the best one liners in the film (nobody would know...nobody lol)

The payoff will come in sequels to the stuff I think you're talking about (Thor well?).  There was plenty here to stand alone (some people complain about too much in the film then complain about not enough resolution so go figure lol) so it's not like they sacrificed anything in the film.  It's meant to be a part of a bigger universe and as we're seeing with MoS leading into BvS this kinda stuff is going to be done over multiple films now.


everyone was pretty meh , there wasnt any avenger i lied

what i really disliked was the lack of consequences for tony and bruce at the end , they near damned ended the world 

once again the thor nonsense was out of place , was amazing spiderman movie being AN AD FOR A NEXT movie detrcts from the current one especially when it ruins the pace of the movie

Bruce and Natasha was a bad idea. people got the idea her and clint could be something in a1. then maybe her and cap in winter soldier then the unneeded romance in this film

ultrons immaturity is what made him an annoying villian , was supposed to be this extemely brilliant ai but his plan sucked bum tbh

the movie suffered from poor pacing, over stuffing , half assed themes , OH AND SOME IFFY AS HELL CGI 

but to each his own you liked it that great , i didnt 

Ultron evolved as the movie continued.  It only made sense for him to start immature he was just created.  Makes for a far more interesting character than the 1 note murderbot that most robot villains are (including Ultron in the comics).  This wasn't an ad for the next movie it had some elements that led to future stuff but it certainly had a self-contained story.



I am Iron Man

We are comparing popcorn flicks to the marvelous piece of art that is fury road, why the fuck are we doing that?

Compare Age of U to any other mediocre superhero movie. Most of them are.

 

OT: The honest trailer isn't harsh at all compared to his other videos. I guess he likes it , as he should.



LurkerJ said:

We are comparing popcorn flicks to the marvelous piece of art that is fury road, why the fuck are we doing that?

Compare Age of U to any other mediocre superhero movie. Most of them are.

 

OT: The honest trailer isn't harsh at all compared to his other videos. I guess he likes it , as he should.

you can eat popcorn with any movie.  All films are works of art.  Many are mediocre, but if discount a film just because it has a large budget or because it's about superheroes then you're missing out on the naunces of filmmaking that are just as prevalent in many of them.  They have the mass audience moments but that doesn't mean they can't have great performances and cinematography and writing along with that.



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Emperorbach said:
i mean mad max complaints are weird
hes the main protag but he ALWAYS KINDA WANDERS IN OTHER PEOPLE'S SHIT
i mean he has the most screen time
but the story and conflict in the LATTER 2 ARE STUFF HE JUST WANDERS IN ON others problems
heck the first part of mad max 1 it felt alot like goose was the focus
thunderdome and road warriro he kinda wanders in on crazy stuff


He's still the character we follow in 2 and 3. What's so weird about people not liking that the character that they love is being brushed aside?

And more than a movie with heroines, Road Fury is a movie where men are the source of all evil.



Lawlight said:

And more than a movie with heroines, Road Fury is a movie where men are the source of all evil.

I would argue in the Wasteland men are the source of power, and the society they live in demands brutality to maintain rule and order.  The idea being when we backslide from civilization we go back to "might makes right", and that means most likely men would overwhelm women by force.  You could argue it is lord of the flies mentality of anarchy taking away our mask of civility.  Just look at how harsh and barren life is that the female society uses its own women as bait to lure travelers and likely kill and pillage their goods.  Or could argue that power corrupts as Immorten Joe deprives all his people of precious resource of water while living well for himself with a harem being the grandest excess he covets, sacrificing countless lives to retrieve it.

To me it reflects the Dark Ages on top of modern technology. Brutal, cruel, unforgiving, and one where kindness and unselfishness are rare and often punished.  They wanted to run away, but ultimately they had to turn back and murder a bunch of people to conquer the Citadel as resources are too scarce for both to co-exist.



Funny as usual, but I think they're majorly underselling Max's role in the film by calling him a sidekick.a



Nymeria said:
Lawlight said:

And more than a movie with heroines, Road Fury is a movie where men are the source of all evil.

I would argue in the Wasteland men are the source of power, and the society they live in demands brutality to maintain rule and order.  The idea being when we backslide from civilization we go back to "might makes right", and that means most likely men would overwhelm women by force.  You could argue it is lord of the flies mentality of anarchy taking away our mask of civility.  Just look at how harsh and barren life is that the female society uses its own women as bait to lure travelers and likely kill and pillage their goods.  Or could argue that power corrupts as Immorten Joe deprives all his people of precious resource of water while living well for himself with a harem being the grandest excess he covets, sacrificing countless lives to retrieve it.

To me it reflects the Dark Ages on top of modern technology. Brutal, cruel, unforgiving, and one where kindness and unselfishness are rare and often punished.  They wanted to run away, but ultimately they had to turn back and murder a bunch of people to conquer the Citadel as resources are too scarce for both to co-exist.

Perfectly put.

Plus, if you read the prequel comics, specifically the one for Immortan Joe, you see that he is desperate to look for an heir and he seeks the healthiest women trying to prevent malformations and mutations in his offspring.



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I enjoy how people are trying to use the honest trailer as an excuse to take a heaping dump on Fury Road. You realize honest trailers, even for good movies, dig for whatever flaws that can be found? It's how they work. If we're going to assume every movie they make an honest trailer for is bad, well, the list of movies a lot of people like just turned to crap real quick. It's like the Cinema Sins channel in that respect.

For Fury Road, it was great. I apologize to people that need the type of plot where the characters spell out every tiny bit of the plot, setting, and themes with as many words as can be jammed into any one dialogue sequence, as Fury Road was the exact opposite of that. They basically spelled out nothing except what they absolutely had to, which actually led to some of the most refreshing storytelling I've seen in a movie I wanted to watch in quite awhile. I apologize if a strong female lead left a bad taste in your mouth. You know, sorry that you are so incapable of accepting that, and have a need to point out how bad it is that the movie has some feminist themes in it while daring to include a female lead.

I mean, c'mon. The official trailers didn't exactly try to hide the fact that it had a female focus for the plot. Even then, you still see Max kick a lot of ass as a guy that just got really inconvenienced all because he was captured at the beginning of the film. I wouldn't say Max got sidelined. He was still key to the plot. Without Max's brand of badassery, things wouldn't have even gone half as smoothly as they did for Furiosa's group.

Re: Age of Ultron: Sorry, but it just wasn't very good. It tried to do too much, and it was clearly not the most well thought out addition to the Marvel cinematic universe. It mangled some character relationships, jammed in villains turned heroes with one turned dead, and overall it felt like Ultron had potential as a villain that was really squandered with mediocre writing throughout the rest of the film. Maybe I'm getting tired of super hero films, or maybe the current iteration of the Avengers is starting to fall flat. The most fun I had with a Marvel movie in the past few years was seeing Guardians of the Galaxy, and I feel like a lot of that has to do with the fact that the only relation it had to the Avengers plot line was Thanos and an Infinity Gem. Overall, Age of Ultron falls right into that category of movies I've seen once that I don't plan on watching again. It was, at best, a 7/10, most of that 7 being because the action was generally decent.