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sc94597 on 26 August 2015
ArchangelMadzz said:
DialgaMarine said:
No. It's time that we start actually following the original one. It's not outdated, and never will be.


Start following the original constitution? Time for slaves.


13th Amendment says no. When he said "original" he meant the current constitution with its amendments.



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o_O.Q on 26 August 2015
ArchangelMadzz said:
DialgaMarine said:
No. It's time that we start actually following the original one. It's not outdated, and never will be.


Start following the original constitution? Time for slaves.


how does "all men are created equal" mean legitimisation of slavery?



ArchangelMadzz on 26 August 2015
sc94597 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:


Start following the original constitution? Time for slaves.


13th Amendment says no. When he said "original" he meant the current constitution with its amendments.


Ahhh I mis understood. I took the word 'original' and thought he meant Original, instead of 'current'.



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GuyDuke on 26 August 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
Why? What change is so important and so large that it can't just be done through an ammendment? And perhaps more importantly how would anybody get all of the states to agree to it?

He... the political system? The amendment about firearms? Not everyone would agree about it, but cmon... This is archaic at best.



sc94597 on 26 August 2015
ArchangelMadzz said:
sc94597 said:


13th Amendment says no. When he said "original" he meant the current constitution with its amendments.


Ahhh I mis understood. I took the word 'original' and thought he meant Original, instead of 'current'.

Yeah he meant "original" versus whatever new constitution would be made as proposed by the thread creator. Since there is only one and has only been one U.S Constitution ratified (with ammendments) the current constitution is also the original. This is opposed with, for example, my state - Pennsylvania - having had four constitutions since the U.S constitution was ratified. The current Pennsylvania constitution is not the original.



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sc94597 on 26 August 2015
guiduc said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Why? What change is so important and so large that it can't just be done through an ammendment? And perhaps more importantly how would anybody get all of the states to agree to it?

He... the political system? The amendment about firearms? Not everyone would agree about it, but cmon... This is archaic at best.


Most people support the second amendment, so it would probably still exist in a new constitution.



GuyDuke on 26 August 2015
sc94597 said:
guiduc said:

He... the political system? The amendment about firearms? Not everyone would agree about it, but cmon... This is archaic at best.


Most people support the second amendment, so it would probably still exist in a new constitution.

Yes, it's rooted deep in their traditions, even though a lot of countries are absolutely against it.



asqarkabab on 26 August 2015

No this constitution garanties the democracy of the usa



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Nymeria on 26 August 2015
o_O.Q said:
ArchangelMadzz said:


Start following the original constitution? Time for slaves.


how does "all men are created equal" mean legitimisation of slavery?


That was asked from 1789 to 1861, people had a difference of opinion on the answer.



o_O.Q on 26 August 2015
Nymeria said:
o_O.Q said:


how does "all men are created equal" mean legitimisation of slavery?


That was asked from 1789 to 1861, people had a difference of opinion on the answer.


my point is that yes people even the ones that composed the constitution to begin with may have engaged in slavery, but regardless the constitution itself condemns slavery