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I am amazed at the broad range of supporters Trump has gotten. From my Grandpa to my friends. Trump is doing what all candidates should be doing, being an American. I love it. Will he win? I dont know. But his impact on this election will be huge. I am excited to see how that will play out.

I have seen a lot of people say he is blaming Mexicans for our problems, I haven't seen that. Illegal immigrants/aliens, yes. Any body living in a border state will agree with this. Feel free to drive through Southern CA, Arizona, Texas, and New Mexico and see the results of unchecked immigration (something no country in the world allows, that I know of)

We finally have a politician who isn't worried about the PC police (who manage to make small minority opinions big issues), and more importantly he isn't worried about pandering to the world. He is for America and that is great. We didn't get to be great by following the lead of the world, we did it by leading the world.

He also doesn't try to play the every man card, Hillary. Our leaders shouldn't be everyday Americans, they should be exceptional Americans that have shown they can lead the way, not try and hide their wealth and success to appear to be common only to use their political status to increase their wealth without ever creating jobs or producing anything.



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Jimbo1337 said:

Who are you to say whether or not I am fairly analyzing both candidates?  I am actually far more fair than you could ever be.  I did not regurgitate anything, it's called using my brain and stating facts.  It is you who are dismissing them and then being condescending towards me.  

Facts:

1.)  Hillary Clinton is being investigated by the FBI

2.) Bernie Sanders is a socialist...excuse me a "social democrat".  Did I get that right?

3.) Biden captured less than 1% of the vote in 2008.

So again I ask a question that you totally dismissed:

To this day, I still don't understand how someone can vote for a person that is currently being investigated by the FBI.  Perhaps you could explain your reasoning or the mindset of other democratic voters.

This trumpcard.org meme seems eerily familiar, and it's...not new:



naruball said:
Jimbo1337 said:

Who are you to say whether or not I am fairly analyzing both candidates?  I am actually far more fair than you could ever be. 

Facts:

1.)  Hillary Clinton is being investigated by the FBI

....

To this day, I still don't understand how someone can vote for a person that is currently being investigated by the FBI.  Perhaps you could explain your reasoning or the mindset of other democratic voters.

@bolded

The irony is strong in this one.

And in case you haven't noticed, you sound like a broken record with all the times you mentioned "Hilary is being investigated by the FBI". Seriously, it's like every other post you've made. We get it. She is being investigated by the FBI. We get it.

Why not just keep it in your signature so that you don't have to repeat yourself?

If you notice, he dismissed my disproval of his assertions as "stuff." The fanatacism is bizarre. Trump is trailing in the general election polls, Iowa polls, New Hampshire polls, and his aforementioned Ohio-no-Clinton-turnout polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/president/

What's worse is that the assertion about Trump carrying the hispanic vote is wholly unfounded: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/08/donald-trump-the-gop-and-the-hispanic-vote/402658/

If you read the above article, it's also very apparent that the Republican media outlets will dig up as much dirt as they can to unseat someone they see as a flip-flopper who is attempting to commandeer the ticket. It seems that there are the Trump Republicans, the conservative Republicans, and the Democrats, all vying for the same position.



Insidb said:
Jimbo1337 said:

Who are you to say whether or not I am fairly analyzing both candidates?  I am actually far more fair than you could ever be.  I did not regurgitate anything, it's called using my brain and stating facts.  It is you who are dismissing them and then being condescending towards me.  

Facts:

1.)  Hillary Clinton is being investigated by the FBI

2.) Bernie Sanders is a socialist...excuse me a "social democrat".  Did I get that right?

3.) Biden captured less than 1% of the vote in 2008.

So again I ask a question that you totally dismissed:

To this day, I still don't understand how someone can vote for a person that is currently being investigated by the FBI.  Perhaps you could explain your reasoning or the mindset of other democratic voters.

This trumpcard.org meme seems eerily familiar, and it's...not new:

snip

You see this is why you can't even discuss politics because the moment you state a fact, democrats dismiss them and say that it is GOP propaganda.

You posted poll numbers in a previous post and then I discussed the trends of Trump ascending and Hillary descending.  You then dismissed those points by saying the polls don't matter.  Huh?  They mattered before I discussed the trends and now they don't matter?  You see...this is why you can't discuss politics with people like you.  I bring up valid points and you bring up memes.  If you don't think Hillary is going to continuously drop in the polls month after month, then bring up a couter argument.

Someone pointed out that I am like a broken record because I state the same thing about Hillary Clinton.  But here you have me restating my point to the same guy a second time and AGAIN he refuses to answer the statement.  

But again, just do the democratic thing and dismiss facts and call it GOP propaganda and call me a racist, anti-gay, terrorist, Hitler-like Trump supporter etc 



PDF said:
Jimbo1337 said:

And yet you and everyone else cannot give me a simple reason why they would vote for someone like this out of all of the times that I posted this comment.

I don't think people on here get it at all when 412 people have voted for her on this site alone shown here:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=207223&page=1#

Why vote for Hillary? 

1. She shares the same ideals as me.

2. She has arguable the strongest resume out of any cadidates

3. Honestly you kind of do get two for the price of one with Bill Clinton.

The FBI issue to you keep pointing to is really not that big of a deal to me.  The disagreement on what is or isnt classified seems to come down to disagreement among government agencies.  Everything found so far to be "classified" was not clearly marked classified when she had in on her private server.  As far as this trust issue she has.  Its a real one but for me particularly I don't trust most politicians.  Reagan flat lied to the American people about Iran-Contra before coming clean.  Most republicans would say he was a great president.

What ideals are those exactly, changing her mind and lying to say whatever is applicable and works at the time?  If her last name were Jones instead of Clinton,  her resume would be vapor.  Two for the price of one, are we electing Hilary or are we re-electing Bill Clinton?  Why not elect a Bush then hell, that's like three for the price of one.

A presidential candidate being investigated by the FBI for distinctly breaking the law (a crime we've watched several others get crucified and lose their career over) and having a completely isolated server outside of anybodies jurisdiction?  That doesn't concern you, that your selection for President has no regard for the laws that she would gladly lock you away with for life for breaking?    Sorry but that's a stupid way to look at things.

As for Reagan -- I wasn't aware he was running.  He is in no way relevant to this discussion, but a classic strawman argument never hurt anybody.  By the time Contra happened it was already well into a successful presidency and the ultimate intentions of Contra were relatively pure.



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Aeolus451 said:
RadiantDanceMachine said:
Aeolus451 said:


It's not backpedaling. I'm not gonna make that kind of bet with someone I suspect will just make another account afterwords. You're unwilling to debate against my point with your own points. 

First of all, it's afterwards. Not afterwords. 

Second of all, you haven't made any points. You just backed away from a bet I instigated. 

I made a point "Last time I checked, republicans took control of congress from the liberals and next will be the white house.  " and you jumped right to a bet as a weak defense when you're not someone that anyone can trust on here.

As i said repeatly to you, I will not make bets with a suspected alt. It's utterly pointless. Your word is worthless with bets. If you're unwilling to let go of your "let's make a bet" defense than let's just drop this altogether.  

Alright big guy, next time actually say things you believe not things you fantasize about.

;)



I don't really think Trump really believes half the stuff he says, he just knows that "Mexicans" and "jobs to China" are two button presses the right eats up so he's milking it like crazy. I actually think he is fairly liberal despite the rhetoric, he's not not an evangelical crazy at least.

Clinton will still win it in the end though, she's going to own the female, black, and Mexican support and still get a good chunk of the white vote once Bill starts campaigning alongside her. I think her campaign is trying to avoid oversaturation so early in the race, that kinda happened to her last time where she peaked too early and the Obama campaign gained more traction as the vote came closer. 



Soundwave said:

I don't really think Trump really believes half the stuff he says, he just knows that "Mexicans" and "jobs to China" are two button presses the right eats up so he's milking it like crazy. I actually think he is fairly liberal despite the rhetoric, he's not not an evangelical crazy at least.

Clinton will still win it in the end though, she's going to own the female, black, and Mexican support and still get a good chunk of the white vote once Bill starts campaigning alongside her. I think her campaign is trying to avoid oversaturation so early in the race, that kinda happened to her last time where she peaked too early and the Obama campaign gained more traction as the vote came closer. 







In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

PDF said:
Rpruett said:

What ideals are those exactly, changing her mind and lying to say whatever is applicable and works at the time?  If her last name were Jones instead of Clinton,  her resume would be vapor.  Two for the price of one, are we electing Hilary or are we re-electing Bill Clinton?  Why not elect a Bush then hell, that's like three for the price of one.

A presidential candidate being investigated by the FBI for distinctly breaking the law (a crime we've watched several others get crucified and lose their career over) and having a completely isolated server outside of anybodies jurisdiction?  That doesn't concern you, that your selection for President has no regard for the laws that she would gladly lock you away with for life for breaking?    Sorry but that's a stupid way to look at things.

As for Reagan -- I wasn't aware he was running.  He is in no way relevant to this discussion, but a classic strawman argument never hurt anybody.  By the time Contra happened it was already well into a successful presidency and the ultimate intentions of Contra were relatively pure.

Maybe you are confused on the difference between Marriage and siblings/father and son.  Are you from Alabama???

Whatever her last name does not change the fact that she was a Senator, Secretary of State and yes did see first hand what it was like to be President through her husband an was a very politcally engaged first lady.

The fact that you don't know the difference between Hillary FBI investigation and somone like General Patraeus shows you are not qualified to really talk about it. http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/08/30/clinton-controversy-no-comparison-petraeus-column/71421242/

If you are so concerned about the private servers does that disqualify Jeb, Walker, Perry, and Jindall who did the same thing?

Maybe you're confusing blood relatives with married relatives.   Whatever her last name,  is precisely by the means in which she became 'Senator'  and subsequently 'Secretary of State' due to her name.   

Did you read the article you linked?  Essentially -- the entire premise is Clinton isn't guilty because she didn't 'knowingly do something unlawful'.     "Petraeus knowingly engaged in unlawful conduct, and that was the basis of his criminal liability."    Running under the assumption that Clinton didn't knowingly engage in unlawful conduct is a weak argument at best.

I guess we can conveniently leave out of your little synapsis that it's believed that Clinton tried to 'wipe her email server'.   Let me ask you,  how often in the digital age do you 'wipe' or 'destroy' things unless you have some reason for them to not be seen?  Especially, for someone who claims to be so ignorant to the process.   The reaction is priceless and it speaks a thousand words .   

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b01lEFXngTs

Absolutely -- If you're working outside the boundaries of the law while under a government seat doesn't that pretty consistently speak to your character?   Does that not make them every bit as 'unfit' to be President as people who claim Donald Trump is?   Every bit as 'non' Presidential?  

 

Again if her name wasn't Clinton -- She wouldn't be a Senator, she wouldn't be Secretary of State, she wouldn't be qualified.   That's beside the point that she's just a mediocre candidate across the board.