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If this is NX would you buy?

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JRPGfan on 22 August 2015
Conina said:
JRPGfan said:
Conina said:

And if you order blu-ray discs by volume of at least 10000's (distribution of smaller volumes to retail doesn't make much sense) you can get a unit price around $0.75 for a 25 GB Blu-ray disc (multicolored printing included): http://www.quickturnduplication.com/html/blu-ray-duplication-prices.php

I think Nintendo could get even lower prices, and in the future these are going to become even cheaper.

They can offset that issue by just selling every physical game for a few more $ though.

Hurray for more expensive Nintendo games, the fans will love that!

And a great way to repair the relationship to third parties. Will multi-platform retail games cost "just a few more $" on NX than on PS4 + XBO? Or will the third parties price them the same and have less profit on the NX-version?

Nintendo could just eat the difference then?  Im not sure how big a deal it is, if potentially you lose like 2$ on each game sale (compaired to the competitors).

Maybe its just nostalgia but I kinda loved game cartridges, and wouldnt mind seeing them come back.



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episteme on 22 August 2015

I don't see the problem with the price for cartridges. A 64GB non-rewritable flash cartridge should be less than $1 to produce. Sure, Blu-rays are just a few Cents to produce, but it shouldn't matter that much for $40-$60 games. Don't try to argue with the prices of BD-ROMS or SD Cards for consumers, that's ridiculous.

Optical disks have to go, they're antiquated tech compared to other components in today's consoles.



Wyrdness on 22 August 2015
spemanig said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Eh? But there is a memory card slot? It could be cartridge based which is what it seems like and not "all digital"?


I can't believe people are seriously harping on about this. It's literally just describing an SD card slot. You know, like the one the Wii and Wii U have. It's not cartridge based.

...Unless you and everyone else think it won't have an SD card slot at all and will only have a slot for cartridges. Because that patent only mentions one slot, does it not? Mmm.


Read the patent on GAF it describes a game being read off the card.



Frogger on 22 August 2015
fatslob-:O said:

I didn't specify you required an ALWAYS online system ... 

You do NEED an internet connection regardless, it's mandatory ...

It's a question of whether or not you need an internet connection and nothing else ...


Oh. Then yeah, its mandatory. Like an ipod. And Netflix. And Steam. And a Kindle. And literally every other successful modern media platform.



Frogger on 22 August 2015
FunFan said:


But the cartridge might have the extra perk of working with both the console and the handheld. I'm not saying you are absolutely wrong, I just don't want a digital only console. But if it happens I'll bow before you and aknowledge your far superior psychic dick.


You know what also has the perk of working with both the console and the handheld, with the added perk of costing less than bluray, not 10x more, to port? All digital.

But sure. We'll wait and see. I'm still guessing that my NFC game card prediction will hold true.



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Frogger on 22 August 2015
Captain_Yuri said:

Well Nintendo could also make their own flash memory (like usual) which might lower the price enough to make it cost around the same as a 3ds cartridge (maybe a few of dollars more) but with a lot better space and then sell that to the third parties for less which is what I am assuming they do for the 3ds. Nintendo can also offset the cost to third parties by asking for less per game sold since currently its $12 on a $60 game.

But at the end of the day, I doubt it will be "Digital Only" after the famous xbox One nonsense that happened and people certainly remember that... It might not be always "on" but I doubt people are ready to move on considering how the internet is around the world... But if it is Digital Only, then I shall acknowledge your epicness

Could even be optical media even though the patent drawing doesn't have anything if what the neogaf members are saying is true since it apperently says in the patent that the OS can use optical media and play games but don't quote me on that since it's from neogaf


A card with 8x the storage as the largest possible 3DS card won't cost merely "a few dollars more." And "a few dollars" more is exponencially more than the cents these guys are paying for bluray on competing systems. To think Nintendo would offset this by taking such a significant hit on their profit margins, and it would have to be significant, is putting a lot of blind faith in a company who just came off a console with record losses.

The XBO wasn't ever digital only, and the bad PR on that has no baring on the NX at all. A failure on one platform doesn't mean a failure for everything else. Literally everything else is digital only only now. Steam has 65m+ users "around the world" and its digital only. Apple and android eclipse that, and they're digital only. People need to stop acting like gaming is such a different media from everything else. Once someone big enough does it right, everyone will hop on, like Apple did with music, like Netflix did with movies, like Kindle did with books, and like Valve did with gaming on a PC.

But again, we're just going back and forth at this point. Wait and see. 2016 is a ripe year for the first digital only console.



Frogger on 22 August 2015
Tamron said:
The basic program slot is for sabegame encryption, note how it only says game program on the HDD and not the memory card slot, that rules out carts entirely.
Digital console folks.


THANK YOU.



Frogger on 22 August 2015
fatslob-:O said:

@Bold This especially ...

Well that pretty much kills it's chance of succeeding in other regions like South America, Africa, Middle East, and some parts of Asia ...


Yeah, just like the iphone, all android devices, Steam, Kindle, etc etc.



Frogger on 22 August 2015
TheGoldenBoy said:
If the console is digital-only I'm interesting in seeing why retailers, like Walmart and Target, would even stock the NX since they mostly make their money off the games and accessories and Nintendo would essentially be cutting them out.


The same reason they stock the iphone. Because people buy them.



Frogger on 22 August 2015
FarleyMcFirefly said:
If by no disc means digital only, I will not be purchasing and Nintendo would be stupid to do this as they would lose a huge chunk of sales.


No they wouldn't. They would lose what the industry calls "the 2%," which to them is insignificant compared to the consumers they'd gain.