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Biggest failure for the PS4, for me, is how archaic PSN still is compared to XBL and Steam. Hopefully they are already doing the work to fix a lot of their problems.



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For the PS4... Is a success on marketing(the retail), however PS+ is not so good.

For the Xbox One... Wow, it was horrible before backward compatibility, external drive support & kinectless.



beeje13 said:
If it makes a profit over it's lifetime, which may be impossible to tell.

But Phil talks about being ahead of the curve, compared to 360, so they are doing well, but it depends on whether the market has grown or we are seeing a more front loaded sales trajectory.

lol, this front loaded thing again. Even though all the data and evidence so far has shown its not the case. 

To OP. PS4 is already a success. Being they have gone almost 2yrs now without a price drop and are still the best selling console globally. As for XB1. Well, they are doing fine. The success of the PS4 is just making them look bad. 



MoHasanie said:

PS4 seems to be making a nice profit and should make Sony a good amount of money ..

No it doesn't. Read the latest quarterly earnings report.



Intrinsic said:
beeje13 said:
If it makes a profit over it's lifetime, which may be impossible to tell.

But Phil talks about being ahead of the curve, compared to 360, so they are doing well, but it depends on whether the market has grown or we are seeing a more front loaded sales trajectory.

lol, this front loaded thing again. Even though all the data and evidence so far has shown its not the case. 

To OP. PS4 is already a success. Being they have gone almost 2yrs now without a price drop and are still the best selling console globally. As for XB1. Well, they are doing fine. The success of the PS4 is just making them look bad. 


Not really, we will only be able to tell at the end of the gen. I hope it isn't more front loaded than normal, then we'd get a new highest selling console.



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The Xbox only needs to win the US and they win the generation,

The Playstation can't win. Sales means nothing. :p



Miguel_Zorro said:
XBox One - I think if it outsells the 360, that's one indicator of success. I think it will do that.

PS4 - Outselling the PS3 is also a success factor, but the bar is higher because Sony has been dominant in the past. I'd say they have to win the generation.

For both companies, actually turning on a profit on their gaming divisions is an important success factor.


You mean it's outselling the PS2... The bar has already been passed.

drkohler said:
MoHasanie said:

PS4 seems to be making a nice profit and should make Sony a good amount of money ..

No it doesn't. Read the latest quarterly earnings report.


Yes, the PS4 does. And so is doing Sony:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/sony-on-road-to-recovery-thanks-to-strong-ps4-and-camera-sensor-sales/



Michelasso said:

drkohler said:
MoHasanie said:

PS4 seems to be making a nice profit and should make Sony a good amount of money ..

No it doesn't. Read the latest quarterly earnings report.


Yes, the PS4 does. And so is doing Sony:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/sony-on-road-to-recovery-thanks-to-strong-ps4-and-camera-sensor-sales/


Come on bro, we all know Sony is going bankrupt. xD



tiffac said:
Michelasso said:

drkohler said:
MoHasanie said:

PS4 seems to be making a nice profit and should make Sony a good amount of money ..

No it doesn't. Read the latest quarterly earnings report.


Yes, the PS4 does. And so is doing Sony:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/sony-on-road-to-recovery-thanks-to-strong-ps4-and-camera-sensor-sales/


Come on bro, we all know Sony is going bankrupt. xD


Sony to go bankrupt really needs to make very bad choices. Like an always on/always connected PlayStation, all digital with DRM, a bundled PS Eye camera, absurd policies about selling indie games, etc. etc... :p