Remaster is just a prettier word for port
| d21lewis said:
One more: Super Mario All-Stars: Exact same gameplay, glitches, etc. Different graphics and sound. What is it? Oh, one thing I didn't mention in the OP: Every game in this thread so far is a game I actually owned and still own (both versions) right now at this very moment. |
All-Stars doesn't have just the same glitches.
Now, I'm not a NES programmer but somehow I doubt they could port NES code with ease to SNES. If not, then All-Stars is a full-blown remake, even with the identical gameplay and levels.
Yep.
| Nem said: Remaster isnt a thing. Thats a fancy term they came up with to sell you the game. A remaster is a port. Like, no one was calling the DC version of MK4 and Soul Reaver "remasters" even though they were clearly superior to the PS1 counterparts. |
Wrong. You can have a port without having a remaster. Take "Oddworld: New 'n' Tasty!". It has been first (re)made (because it is a remake) for PS4 and then ported to PS3 at a lower resolution. Or FF VII for iOS. It's a port of the Steam version for PC, the graphics assets should be identical. Another good example is Dark Souls for PC. It was basically the same game, even at the same resolution. It was even still stuttering in Blighttown . It needed a mod to go above 720p30fps.
In order to have a remaster there is the need to have some assets... remastered indeed. Starting with the graphics. FF VII is a good example because technically the Steam version has been remastered. The problem is that it has been one of the crappiest remasters ever. If it was properly done the remaster itself could have been close to the "remake" the nostalgic of turn based combat were dreaming of.
Hopefully SE is fixing that on the PS4 version.
Pretty straight forward to me, their definitions are for each the most literal sense of the word.
Port: Straight up rerelease on different platform without changes beyond those necessary to accomodate the new platform.
Remaster: A touch-up of the original code and assets often resulting in updated graphics and effects.
Remake: The same game with all assets remade from scratch.
twintail said:
A remake is a from the bottom up redo of a game. A remaster is just the new name of an enhanced port. UC and Gears are obviously enhanced ports. Their code is not being completetly rewritten or anything to that effect: the games are merely being enhanced from the original source files. Personal opinion on what is a cash grab and what is not. But in some cases it is pretty obvious: Protoype is a cash grab, because its barely even enhanced in any way and I think even runs worse than the original (r something to that effect). That is a cash grab just because its lazy. |
Your surprised and yet, there is disagreement and confusion about what is what.
mZuzek said:
Just goes to show how unnecessary of a remaster that was. To answer your question though, yes. |
Two comments:
1. Try playing the Gamecube original. I bet you would appreciate the rerelease, then! It has several major improvements, especially the camera controls!!
2. Do you feel that way about any other game in the op? There is at least one with even improvements!
| Dgc1808 said: There was a discussion about this in another thread. Some one wanted to point out that late PC ports almost always release with presentation and visual enhancements. So should they be considered remasters? The concensus at the end was "YES". They do fit the definition because they were made after the original and improvements were made on what was already there. In vast majority of cases, "port" and "remaster" are synonyms. (And lets be honest, if TLOU wasn't a popular game we probably wouldn't be seeing the labeled 'remaster' being discussed so much... Then again, people would still be talking/complaing about 'definitve' editions XD) |
It happens with movies too. The early blu-ray releases were pretty bad (pre h.264, single layer mpeg-2 discs, upscaled DVD ports) and it still happens now and then. One notorious bad example is The blair witch project. http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Blair-Witch-Project-Blu-ray/13876/ They don't call them remasters though. And sometimes remasters lose some charm of the original, same with games.
When is a port a remaster? It seems the game industry likes to use the word for ports from one gen to the next. It has little to do with enhancements for better or worse. It's simply the new term for HD editions, sounds better than The last of us full HD. The term is mostly used by the press and marketing anyway, Nathan drake collection and Gears Ultimate edition, no mention of remastered in the titles there. The press doesn't know what they mean either: Gears of War remastered coming to PC, playable at 4K resolution
The remake of the original Gears of War is coming to computers
Which is it?
| d21lewis said:
One more: Super Mario All-Stars: Exact same gameplay, glitches, etc. Different graphics and sound. What is it? Oh, one thing I didn't mention in the OP: Every game in this thread so far is a game I actually owned and still own (both versions) right now at this very moment. |
It's definitely a remake. Remasters didn't really exist in the early 90s anyway.
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| d21lewis said:
One more: Super Mario All-Stars: Exact same gameplay, glitches, etc. Different graphics and sound. What is it? Oh, one thing I didn't mention in the OP: Every game in this thread so far is a game I actually owned and still own (both versions) right now at this very moment. |
It's definitely a remake. Remasters didn't really exist in the early 90s anyway.
---Member of the official Squeezol Fanclub---
| d21lewis said:
One more: Super Mario All-Stars: Exact same gameplay, glitches, etc. Different graphics and sound. What is it? Oh, one thing I didn't mention in the OP: Every game in this thread so far is a game I actually owned and still own (both versions) right now at this very moment. |
It's definitely a remake. Remasters didn't really exist in the early 90s anyway.
---Member of the official Squeezol Fanclub---
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