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Serious_frusting said:
sc94597 said:

SSD's are quite amazing. Load times are essentially a non-issue with them, especially if you raid multiple. Any new build that isn't a budget build should have one.

Not for pc gaming though. Its not worth the price.

So everything that doesn't increase your fps in games is "not worth the price"? Most people use their gaming PCs also for other tasks and SSDs have been the biggest improvement in PC hardware in the last decade, especially when multitasking. The PC boots up much faster, every program starts faster, games installed on the SSD start faster and the loading times within the game are much faster. Even if your games are on a bigger HDD, they profit from a fast boot partition (background tasks).



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Locknuts said:

Great build mate. It's probably what I would use if I were to build a PC today. Well done.

Also, Windows 10 seems pretty great so far but if you can get 7 or 8 cheaper and then use the free upgrade it might be the way to go.

Oh and I like the closed loop water coolers for the CPU (Antec or Corsair). They're very quiet if you couple them with Noctua fans (Noctua are the best IMO) and they allow for some beastly overclocking, and they put less strain on your mobo than a traditional CPU cooler.


I would like to make this a quiet machine but I'm not interested in water cooling.  The Noctua fans look great.  The NH-14 would work well for my cpu if I OC'd it right?  Am I gonna have to worry about compatibility between the fans, tower, and cpu?

Good idea about the free upgrade.



WolfpackN64 said:
Seems quite a good build. Personally I still think an SSHD is a better investment now then a HDD+SSD combo.
As for the PSU, gold rated might be a bit overkill. Personally I work with a bronze rated (budget system) PSU, but silver might do the trick for you.

Bronze/silver is probably the way to go.  The SSHD seems more convienent and less money but how would it compare speed wise to an SSD?



Conegamer said:

Hmm, this all sounds pretty similar to me don't you think Captain?

I'd personally get an air cooler, maybe a lower cost PSU, and more RAM, but that's just me. Aside from that it's pretty much the same as my build (though I went for a 2TB HDD) so, hope you enjoy it! We're both in the same boat with this so I'm sure it'll go fine. Also, your monitor looks a bit, well, rubbish so I'd look for a better one. OLED would be preferable. 


Yea I did more research on the monitor and changed my mind.  I'm thinking 4K is the way to go.



JEMC said:
Nice build.

Don't listen to those telling you to wait for newer graphics cards. The most optimistic believe that Nvidia will launch Pascal by Q1 2016 so they are still far away.

If you prefer a quiet PC, I'd look for the Fractal Design R5. It's a great and quiet case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352048 (10$ more for the version with a window)

Also, and last, I'm quite sure that you've already looked it but that monitor has a TN panel. Unless you're used to displays with that high refresh rate, I'd honestly go for a monitor with an IPS panel for better colors and the same 1000:1 real contrast ratio or an VA panel for slightly better colors but much improved contrast.

Like the tower, and yea on second thought that monitor sucks.  I'm gonna try and find a reasonably priced 4K monitor.



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sc94597 said:
Netty said:
That 1TB hard drive is going to fill up fast considering how huge many modern games are. You might as well spend a little more and get a 2TB drive.

Also, since you're going to be emulating 6th gen consoles, you might want to consider a faster CPU. I have a 4790k and it can run Dolphin well enough that I often forget I'm using an emulator.

4690k is enough for Dolphin. Dolphin doesn't and won't ever use more than three threads. That means you even have one extra core left for multitasking with an i5, and since it is overclockable core speed is not an issue. My 4690k runs any game at full speed on Dolphin and any game that can be run at full speed on PCSX2.

Awesome.  I'm guessing you OC'd your 4690K?



mtu9356 said:
WolfpackN64 said:
Seems quite a good build. Personally I still think an SSHD is a better investment now then a HDD+SSD combo.
As for the PSU, gold rated might be a bit overkill. Personally I work with a bronze rated (budget system) PSU, but silver might do the trick for you.

Bronze/silver is probably the way to go.  The SSHD seems more convienent and less money but how would it compare speed wise to an SSD?

It basically caches data you use the most, so it's all dependant on how big the SSD cache is. But for me it sharply increased boot up times compared to an HDD. Loading times in games won't be dramatically better as with an SSD, but the Seagate Barracuda I'm using is still fast enough for me. I could add an SSD later if I want. If you really want top notch speed, go get an SSD. But if you're willing to compromise a bit, an SSHD gives some decent advantages over traditional HDD's and they're not very expensive.



Conina said:
Serious_frusting said:
sc94597 said:

SSD's are quite amazing. Load times are essentially a non-issue with them, especially if you raid multiple. Any new build that isn't a budget build should have one.

Not for pc gaming though. Its not worth the price.

So everything that doesn't increase your fps in games is "not worth the price"? Most people use their gaming PCs also for other tasks and SSDs have been the biggest improvement in PC hardware in the last decade, especially when multitasking. The PC boots up much faster, every program starts faster, games installed on the SSD start faster and the loading times within the game are much faster. Even if your games are on a bigger HDD, they profit from a fast boot partition (background tasks).


Agree 100% with this. I have a SSD for my OS drive and a 2nd SSD for my game drive. 



mtu9356 said:
JEMC said:
Nice build.

Don't listen to those telling you to wait for newer graphics cards. The most optimistic believe that Nvidia will launch Pascal by Q1 2016 so they are still far away.

If you prefer a quiet PC, I'd look for the Fractal Design R5. It's a great and quiet case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352048 (10$ more for the version with a window)

Also, and last, I'm quite sure that you've already looked it but that monitor has a TN panel. Unless you're used to displays with that high refresh rate, I'd honestly go for a monitor with an IPS panel for better colors and the same 1000:1 real contrast ratio or an VA panel for slightly better colors but much improved contrast.

Like the tower, and yea on second thought that monitor sucks.  I'm gonna try and find a reasonably priced 4K monitor.

I wouldn't go for a 4K monitor, to be honest.

Your card can't run modern games like GTA V or The Wotcher 3 at 4K without dialing the settings down, and that's only going to get worse. If you want something more than a 1080p monitor, go for a 2560x1440 monitor instead.



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Very nice build for a first try.

I would upgrade the RAM to 16 GiB however, I doubt the price will continue to go down for long, so you would be safe in that area. As DDR4 is on the rise, investing now into DDR3 rather than later sound more prudent to me. A bigger Hard Drive would be an idea, but that depends also on how much you want to install. Still, 1 TB is pretty small nowadays and 2 TB Drives are not much more expensive than a 1 TB Drive.

Another suggestion could be another CPU cooler. The boxed coolers tend to be rather loud as they lack reserves, especially if you want to overclock your system.