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Mr Puggsly said:
sethnintendo said:


That is because very few PC gamers give a shit about EA nor would they care about EA Access.  Only a few PC gamers even bother with Origin.  Steam has a monopoly on PC gamers that EA can only have wet dreams about.

Impressive, very obnoxious response.

I agree, relatively few would care about EA Access on PC. But for a measly $30 a year they could get more people on PC playing EA games or even Origin.

People forget its actually an impressive service for a low price.

Sorry, I don't hold EA in high regard.  However, I believe they could make more money from selling an increased number of their games if they listed them on Steam (even though Valve would be taking a cut).  Same thing people say about Nintendo going 3rd party but it isn't as extreme conisdering this is about online stores and not dedicated hardware.  They might be better off dropping Origin and just going with Steam.  I'd buy an old Road Rash if it was on Steam store and I've only bought 1 EA game in 15+ years (Need for Speed: Most Wanted U).  What I won't do is go out of my way and download another store front on my PC (plus I've heard that Origin was intrusive awhile ago). 

I just have some concerns like the people that have been responding back to you in a more polite manner.  I'm worried that every single publisher will try a subscription service and lock things behind paywalls.



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DerNebel said:

Bolded: They are not...like at all. EA Access is infinitely closer to PS+ and Xbox Live Gold than it is to PS Now.

Just don't get a subscription to PS Now then. That's why the service was initially not even offered with one, because the point of PSNow isn't for hardcore gamers to be able to constantly replay their old PS3 games, it is for people without a PS3 to be able to once in a while pick up a PS3 game to play without all the hassle of owning the system, which is why the service won't even get to its full potential for Sony until it is on way more devices with a screen.

And it could also be a bigger success if the service was on PC, but it isn't which makes me very much doubt that we know the whole picture here.

There are more than enough publishers out there that could make a similar subscription service and if a publisher isn't big enough for this on its own he could always start a strategic alliance with other publishers for a service like this, also is the fact that games already have locked content via DLC supposed to make me happy? That isn't going to stop publishers from locking other content behind these services, we already have stupid shit like retailer exclusive pre order DLC, what's going to stop them from doing this?

Again, is the fact that people are now happy to pay for PS+ because of the free games(which btw is a pretty grand assumption here, cause we know that most people have PS+ because, surprise, surprise, a gameplay feature is locked behind it) supposed to make me happy? I don't have PS+, I'm still annoyed by the fact that I'll have to get it sooner or later because I want to play UC4 multiplayer. So actually PS+ is a perfect example to support my point of view here, first it was a service that upon subscription gave you free games, discounts, demos and some other small stuff (sound familiar?) and that was it, but then Sony realized that people are way more interested in buying into PS+ when they lock an important feature like multiplayer behind it and they sure were proven right. And while I'll easily admit that a lot of people just went with it, that still doesn't mean that everyone did, I certainly didn't and I certainly won't if publishers try to pull the same shit.

If I felt like I didn't have to worry about my scenario happening then I wouldn't, but looking at all the ways publishers have tried to get money out of customers in the last few years I simply don't feel that way, so I'll choose to stay sceptical.

Fair enough, we've seen companies abuse consumers with DLC, updated releases on new disc, etc.

Regardless, things seem to improve consumers as well. The subscription services we've seen thus far have been a good value When they start getting abusive, consumers will call them out.

I'm annoyed by DLC. But what's most important is feeling like what's on the disc is worth $60. Paid DLC that finishes the story gross. AC:Unity had that but fortunately that became free because the game was so broken.



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Major Nelson he is just a kid! awful actor really.... there was nothing funny except laughing has is poor acting...

 

p.s. he cant even handle properly the miclightsword......shame.... try harder to fit in dark vader shoe



It was terrible... I just finished to watch.

The Destiny video last year was way way way cooler and effective... this one is just shameless.

How they could even do something like that?



Mr Puggsly said:
Ruler said:


This, 

I bet EA is delaying the games for a week for EA access, we gamers dont gain content but lose

Eh... that's unlikely.

They pick a release date and the EA Access content simply needs to be ready before then.

they pick the release date one week later than the time the game could actually be released



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I finally watched it and it just wasn't funny. Could be because I don't really like the guy but it was just poorly executed. Could of been funny though.

And talking about people taking things to serious, remember Larry's reaction to Conan O'briens E3 vid.



Ruler said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Eh... that's unlikely.

They pick a release date and the EA Access content simply needs to be ready before then.

they pick the release date one week later than the time the game could actually be released

Not necessary, they pick a release date most likely because they feel that's a good release window. Then do the early access a week before launch.

All games could be released weeks or maybe even months sooner. But get put on hold for various reasons. Go concern yourself with that.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Ruler said:

they pick the release date one week later than the time the game could actually be released

Not necessary, they pick a release date most likely because they feel that's a good release window. Then do the early access a week before launch.

All games could be released weeks or maybe even months sooner. But get put on hold for various reasons. Go concern yourself with that.

you have no proof, neither have i but given its EA



Ruler said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Not necessary, they pick a release date most likely because they feel that's a good release window. Then do the early access a week before launch.

All games could be released weeks or maybe even months sooner. But get put on hold for various reasons. Go concern yourself with that.

you have no proof, neither have i but given its EA

 

Your argument is dumb because it implies finding a good launch window isnt a priority. EA Access isnt EA's priority because most people wont subscribe.

Also, EA Access early access is just a trial. You dont get access to the full game.



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bananaking21 said:
Zappykins said:

But Sony Gamers don't want EA Access.  Didn't you hear?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/07/30/sony-turned-down-ea-access-for-playstation/

But PlayStation Now, well, that's totally different.


exactly, its totally different, so why bring it up?

You know, how like Ice Cream and Sherbert are totally different.

Even better if you get to pay more for game you might already own.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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