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The NFL Thread 2015: Denver Broncos win Super Bowl 50

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Who will win Super Bowl 50?

Patriots 116 25.00%
 
Seahawks 41 8.84%
 
Colts 7 1.51%
 
Packers 42 9.05%
 
Broncos 85 18.32%
 
Ravens 8 1.72%
 
Cowboys 18 3.88%
 
Panthers 56 12.07%
 
Other 74 15.95%
 
Scoreboard 17 3.66%
 
Total:464

Eagles are going to have a rough season. I'm calling Chip Kelly will wear out his welcome and this will be his final season in Philly.

BTW, I'm entering the prediction league.



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I say my pick for redskins getting the #1 draft pick is looking pretty good right now



Tyritorious said:

Eagles are going to have a rough season. I'm calling Chip Kelly will wear out his welcome and this will be his final season in Philly.


No way man. NFC East division winners, make it to the divisional rounds of the playoffs.



noname2200 said:

No way man. NFC East division winners, make it to the divisional rounds of the playoffs.

Can't tell if serious, but I'll get this out before my official predictions. 

Eagles will finish 3rd in the East, miss the playoffs, and have a messy offseason.



Tyritorious said:

Eagles are going to have a rough season. I'm calling Chip Kelly will wear out his welcome and this will be his final season in Philly.

BTW, I'm entering the prediction league.

They play the helpless Giants and Redskins a total of four games, that's an easy 4-0 to 3-1 right there (if the Eagles stay healthy).

The Eagles are my team's main rivals this year, so I follow them a bit. Of course they're all high as kites off of preseason right now, but we know that PS usually means squat outside of player evaluations. See : Detroit going 4-0 then 0-16, Dallas going 0-4 then 12-4. Everybody is generally taking it easy in PS to try to reduce the risk of major injuries, but the Eagles still have to run that go-fast offensive scheme, and no PS defense is going to be very interested in going 10/10ths to actually stop that.

Of course, the constant go-fast is the problem the Eagles have had the last two years. They look great early to midseason, but the absolutely massive amount of time their defense has to be on the field (their offense either succeeds in scoring or fails to convert FAST nearly every time) gasses them over the year. The most glaring example of this was seen in their two games with Dallas last year. Dallas had a super short week and was tired coming into the Thanksgiving game (IIRC it was something like Sunday Night or Monday to Thursday!), and the Eagles crushed Dallas at home. Then a few weeks later in December, Dallas came into Philly and absolutely crushed the Eagles until they started coasting (they nearly let the Eagles back into it late, but firmed up in time to stop that). The Eagles also lost to the basketcase Redskins late in the season I think. Dallas lost to the Redskins earlier in the season, but that was really something strange to see. WAS was literally calling 'cover-zero' blitzes and bringing the entire team. It was insane. I've never seen it before in the NFL before or since, and that's probably because it's a massive risk, a single game-planned quick slant goes to the house with cover zero. Gruden is a complete buffoon though, so who knows, he might try that again this year, and that spells possible major injuries to their NFCE QBs even if they lose those games.

So anyway, I see Philly doing overall fairly well this year barring major injuries, but another 10-6ish season and 2nd in the NFCE unless Chip learns to coast it with a decent lead. Otherwise his defense will look like swiss cheese yet again in December for a late self destruction. At least this year I think it's likely that 10-6 gets a wildcare, and I could see them recovering to win a game in the playoffs.

Now if Bradford and/or Murray go down? Things start to slide a bit. Foles was better than Sanchez, and I think a healthy Bradford is better than either, but not by a huge margin. If they get to midseason at 6-2 or 7-1 like I expect, but play the 2nd half with a diminished lineup, that can turn into a 3-5 or 4-4 finish quickly (or worse).

Philly AND Dallas both play some ridiculous defensive teams this year. Even the Jets, who may be useless on offense can really hurt you on defense. And that's cake compared to Miami or Buffalo's new defensive looks imho.



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1. Cowboys 10-6
2. Eagles 8-8
3. Giants 8-8
4. Redskins 2-14

That's a good prediction.

EDIT: Wait, the NFC East plays against the NFC South this year.

1. Cowboys 12-4
2. Eagles 10-6
3. Giants 10-6
4. Redskins 1-15



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A rough season was the wrong wording to use, under performing season was the more accurate word to use. I haven't seen any Philly preseason football, how has Murray's performance looked in their offensive system?



^^ Before the monstrous slew of injuries I would have agreed with that NYG potential.

They have nearly no O line or safeties of NFL quality. The rest of the defense is a question mark (JPP, their hands-down best defensive player STILL has yet to report in and join the team).

They actually have a shot at being worse than the Redskins this year, though I still think we're talking a 6-10 to 7-9 finish for NYG, and 3-5 wins for WAS.



Tyritorious said:
A rough season was the wrong wording to use, under performing season was the more accurate word to use. I haven't seen any Philly preseason football, how has Murray's performance looked in their offensive system?

Murray has looked okay. It's impossible to gauge full team performance from PS games because of how many starters don't play, and how little effort is generally put in by veterans. It's almost purely an exercise in rookies and bubble players trying hard to earn a spot on the 53, or at least the practice squad.

Murray is a slowish, reliable 1-cut runner that tries hard to finish by running directly into the first guy that might stop him to push for an extra yard or so. He's accurately described as a Marshawn Lynch type with 7/10ths of Marshawn's speed or power.

He will split carries, but there's no chance he has more than say 1,200 yards or so, and probably a lot less than that to be honest. But even that could fit what PHI is trying to do with their schemes. They're not a ball-hog team that wants to take long slow drives down the field, they spread it around and run plays as fast as they can. Murray has a history of injury, and is coming off a season where he carried the ball roughly a billion times. Even last year Murray was a monster in the first 8 games with big holes, then as the Dallas O line and his own legs started to weaken a shade, his production dropped a bit. Take that and put him in a situation where he's running plays at a higher pace, and anywhere near the same number of carries would see him in the ER and OR pretty quickly. 



Arkaign said:
^^ Before the monstrous slew of injuries I would have agreed with that NYG potential.

They have nearly no O line or safeties of NFL quality. The rest of the defense is a question mark (JPP, their hands-down best defensive player STILL has yet to report in and join the team).

They actually have a shot at being worse than the Redskins this year, though I still think we're talking a 6-10 to 7-9 finish for NYG, and 3-5 wins for WAS.

Nobody will be worse than the Redskins this year. It's simply not possible. They are already a mess and they haven't even played a single regular season game yet.



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