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Who will win Super Bowl 50?

Patriots 116 25.00%
 
Seahawks 41 8.84%
 
Colts 7 1.51%
 
Packers 42 9.05%
 
Broncos 85 18.32%
 
Ravens 8 1.72%
 
Cowboys 18 3.88%
 
Panthers 56 12.07%
 
Other 74 15.95%
 
Scoreboard 17 3.66%
 
Total:464
noname2200 said:
mornelithe said:

That's not how this penalty works, sorry.  You're also conveniently forgetting that the normal tactic on a fumble?  Pick up the fuckin ball and run the other way.  But, the seahawks didn't want to risk a safety.  So, instead, intentionally batted the ball out of the endzone (Wrights actual words, btw).  That's illegal.  May not like the rule, but it's the rule. 

That's....actually not the normal tactic on a fumble in the end zone, especially a game winning fumble. We're also still not discussing whether it was a penalty or not. From the looks of it, we're not actually discussing anything at all!!!

Okay, last post from me on the subject.

I, noname2200, based solely upon my personal knowledge unless otherwise stated to be upon information and belief, hereby hazard, conjecture, guess, divine, and surmise that the referees in the game of the Detroit Lions vs. the Seattle Seahawks, which took place on October 5, 2015, in the year of our Lord 2015, on or about the fifty-eighth (58) minute mark of the game, deliberately chose not to call a penalty on a penalty play because the referees assumed, believed, figured, and decided that there was no realistic outcome of the play which would not result in the Seattle Seahawks immediately possessing the football, including but not limited to any action or inaction on the part of a eligible Seattle Seahawks and/or Detroit Lions player. The above statement is not an endorsement, affirmation, advocation, or ratification of that belief. It is not intended, and should not reasonably be interpreted as, an agreement with the morals, ethics, legality, or propriety of that stance, if so intended. Nor is it intended as an absolute statement of fact, recordation of actual fact, or affirmative assertion that any of the above events occurred or did not occur.

I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct.

October 6, 2015

noname2200

Defendant (?)

Brady's under oath testimony meant nothing to most people, your faux under oath testimony doesn't either ;)



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mornelithe said:

That's not how this penalty works, sorry.  You're also conveniently forgetting that the normal tactic on a fumble?  Pick up the fuckin ball and run the other way.  But, the seahawks didn't want to risk a safety.  So, instead, intentionally batted the ball out of the endzone (Wrights actual words, btw).  That's illegal.  May not like the rule, but it's the rule. 

PS. Wright also said he didn't know about the rule.  Ignorance of what is and is not permissible, is not a defense.

Wait, how could that play have resulted in a safety? An interception in the endzone that is followed by down by contact in the endzone results in a touchback. So the same thing should hold true for a fumble that is recovered by the defense in the endzone, no?



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^^ You are correct. The defense recovering the ball and going down in the end zone is a touchback.



Arkaign said:
^^ You are correct. The defense recovering the ball and going down in the end zone is a touchback.

So the moral of the story is that the Seahawks defender was clueless about the rules, because only a spectacular failure in recovering that ball could have led to a different outcome than touchback. Basically, he would have had to bat the ball on the ground of the endzone, because it was already traveling out of it.

The referee in question said that he didn't perceive the bat as intentional, but it's more probable that he had decided that batting the ball was equal to the kind of pass interference that isn't called: If the ball is unreachable for the offense. I am convinced that the referee merely picked the lesser evil when he was questioned about his reasoning to not throw the flag.



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RolStoppable said:
mornelithe said:

That's not how this penalty works, sorry.  You're also conveniently forgetting that the normal tactic on a fumble?  Pick up the fuckin ball and run the other way.  But, the seahawks didn't want to risk a safety.  So, instead, intentionally batted the ball out of the endzone (Wrights actual words, btw).  That's illegal.  May not like the rule, but it's the rule. 

PS. Wright also said he didn't know about the rule.  Ignorance of what is and is not permissible, is not a defense.

Wait, how could that play have resulted in a safety? An interception in the endzone that is followed by down by contact in the endzone results in a touchback. So the same thing should hold true for a fumble that is recovered by the defense in the endzone, no?

It wouldn't, I was typing quickly and not thinking :D



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RolStoppable said:
IND-HOU 2 CHI-KC 2 SEA-CIN 1 WAS-ATL 2
JAC-TB 2 NO-PHI 1 CLE-BAL 2 STL-GB 2
BUF-TEN 1 ARI-DET 1 NE-DAL 1 DEN-OAK 1
SF-NYG 2 BYE   BYE   PIT-SD 2 by 7


That MNF game..... I hated it as a hawks fan. That is all. 



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Since 2000, the Patriots have missed 7, 4th Quarter field goals. Since 2000, the rest of the league has missed 620. Gostkowski has 425 consecutive points (7/7 this year).



mornelithe said:
Since 2000, the Patriots have missed 7, 4th Quarter field goals. Since 2000, the rest of the league has missed 620. Gostkowski has 425 consecutive points (7/7 this year).

The magic of underinflated footballs.



noname2200 said:
mornelithe said:
Since 2000, the Patriots have missed 7, 4th Quarter field goals. Since 2000, the rest of the league has missed 620. Gostkowski has 425 consecutive points (7/7 this year).

The magic of underinflated footballs.

I know right?  Those underinflated footballs that travel less distance, and are less accurate.  Boy, you sure know science and stuff.   Enjoy the salt, oh, and your shitty kickers :)



IND-HOU 1
CHI-KC 2
SEA-CIN 2
WAS-ATL 2
JAC-TB 2
NO-PHI 2
CLE-BAL 2
STL-GB 2
BUF-TEN 1
ARI-DET 1
NE-DAL 1
DEN-OAK 1
SF-NYG 2
BYE   BYE   PIT-SD SD by 7