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How will NX fare in comparison to the PS4?

Below in power 297 32.21%
 
Equal power 99 10.74%
 
More powerful 108 11.71%
 
Very weak in comparison to PS4 67 7.27%
 
A little weaker 128 13.88%
 
Very powerful in comparison to PS4 30 3.25%
 
A little more powerful 106 11.50%
 
Like 2 WiiUs duct taped together 87 9.44%
 
Total:922

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Looking at the AMD road map its an incredible time for them with regard a huge improvement in cpu performance and better integrated gpu's. I think 2016 it is quite possible for Nintendo to be the first to make a console based on this improved architecture and its already been released that AMD is working on a console which is most likely the Nintendo NX.

I think improved cpu performance over ps4 and xbone is something very easy to achieve in 2016 that is a no brainer even for a low cost console.

GPU performance I think will be less possibly around 800 gflops to 1 teraflop.

I think Nintendo will go with 8GB of DDR3 memory.

There wont' be a hard drive but I'm hoping for a internal hard drive bay so you can add your own.

End result is a console capable of running all games the ps4 and xbone run but perhaps without qute as good graphics. However in cpu performance the console will offer superior power.

I honestly think surpassing ps4 and xbone cpu performance is relatively easy. They never pushed the envelope in that regard and it would be quite easy for 4 cores of the next AMD generation to be effectively more powerful than the ps4's 8 much weaker cores. Also 4 cores is a lot easier to program than 8.

Also bear in mind that the new AMD architecture is on a 14nm fabrication process so all this can be achieved in a console of wii or wii u size without needing much cooling hardware. So the NX could be both small and powerful unlike the wii u that used a 40/45nm fabrication process so was severely limited in performance by its compact size.

Of course this is theory is based on a Nintendo being clever enough to realise that AMD's new tech is just what they need a very low cost powerful platform for gaming.



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Tachikoma said:
MohammadBadir said:
For a 9th gen console, it better not have 7th gen power..

youre better off thinking of it as wiiu 8th gen attempt 2.


That's if you assume the Wii U isn't a 7th generation console, which it is.

 



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Miyamotoo said:
Dusk said:

True, but everything he said is in conjunction with the Wii U and it's failures. It's also about what they have done, that's not saying they aren't going to try a different tactic. A more powerful console with a cheaper price point while attempting to be a hybrid system could easily be the something unique. It would not be hard to create a console that is equal to the PS4 and/or X1 or similar at a cheaper price point. The tech has come a long way and even some of the ARM processors are making massive strides while being dirt cheap. It's all speculation though. I could very likely see them pull a rabbit out of a hat on this one, especially since there are already games sort of being announced for the system lol.

Not exactly, for instance Wii U was not affordable console on launch it not even now. Everything he said is in conjunction with Wii not Wii U, Wii U failed almost in every way in comparison with Wii.

They again need affordable console (around $249) with good gimmick (Wii motion controls were very strong, while gamepad completely failed) maybe that hybrid device or something similar, and without Wii U stupid mistakes like bad name, terrible marketing, bad launch titles, software drouth..

Huh? Affordability is contextual to the purchaser. Since the PS4 has been selling so well, it would fit into that affordable sector. The Wii U is and always has been a very affordable console. As with everything, consoles have slowly crept up in price (inflation), it doesn't mean that the same prices set twenty, or even ten years ago are what they need to be to be considered "affordable". When taking in account of inflation, even the cheaper consoles that came to market 20 years ago would be released at a similar price to any of the three that were released this generation.

I'm not sure where this $249 price tag is coming from lately. I have seen it pop up all over this forum, but if the PS4 weren't affordable it wouldn't be selling as well as it is. If price were the only factor for a console then the Wii U should be selling like crazy since it's the cheapest console on the market right now.

Everything secondary you mentioned about the Wii U likely has lead to it's predicament as opposed to your initial point.

As far as a gimmick is concerned, there likely will be one, but likely more cost effective than the last try.



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Protendo said:
Didn't they already say they weren't going for power?


Yes but that's relative.  The Wiiu for example was more powerfull than the xbox 360 and ps3 in some ways even though power wasn't really the main focus. And with their next system it could be roughly as powerfull as xbone one and not be going for power.  If they were dedicated to power i would think it would be a playstation 4.5.



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Below because it's a handheld and micro console that play the same games. I think the only people left still believing in a Next gen home console from Ninty are the Ninty haters. Ninty is clearly no longer interested in the home console market.



It will be quite ambiguous. I think the Overall power will be higher, but in some parts it will seem weaker.

People who know nothing about the power will then boast that one is stronger.

Example being that it shall have more ram but weaker GPU, faster CPU but less storage etc.



Dusk said:
Miyamotoo said:

Not exactly, for instance Wii U was not affordable console on launch it not even now. Everything he said is in conjunction with Wii not Wii U, Wii U failed almost in every way in comparison with Wii.

They again need affordable console (around $249) with good gimmick (Wii motion controls were very strong, while gamepad completely failed) maybe that hybrid device or something similar, and without Wii U stupid mistakes like bad name, terrible marketing, bad launch titles, software drouth..

Huh? Affordability is contextual to the purchaser. Since the PS4 has been selling so well, it would fit into that affordable sector. The Wii U is and always has been a very affordable console. As with everything, consoles have slowly crept up in price (inflation), it doesn't mean that the same prices set twenty, or even ten years ago are what they need to be to be considered "affordable". When taking in account of inflation, even the cheaper consoles that came to market 20 years ago would be released at a similar price to any of the three that were released this generation.

I'm not sure where this $249 price tag is coming from lately. I have seen it pop up all over this forum, but if the PS4 weren't affordable it wouldn't be selling as well as it is. If price were the only factor for a console then the Wii U should be selling like crazy since it's the cheapest console on the market right now.

Everything secondary you mentioned about the Wii U likely has lead to it's predicament as opposed to your initial point.

As far as a gimmick is concerned, there likely will be one, but likely more cost effective than the last try.

Wii U arrived on market with $300/350 price while PS3/Xbox360 price was around $200 and they had similar graphic, in fact multiplatform game worked and play better on PS3/Xbox360 than on Wii U and in that time they got some of the best looking exclusive in whole generation. Gamepad was only difference, but expect off tv play nobody saw what is so special about gamepad, it didn't have nearly same apeling like Wii Remote. Not only Wii U were around $100 more expensive but games looked and performed worse than PS3/Xbox 360.

Miyamoto recently said that Wii U had higher price than they wanted and he said that is one of reasons why Wii U failed. Also, Wii U is first Nintendo hardware on that they were losing money on launch (it was profitable with one sold game).

Also he said this:

"What we are always striving to do is to find a way to take novel technology that we can take and offer it to people at a price that everybody can afford. And in addition to that, rather than going after the high-end tech spec race and trying to create the most powerful console, really what we want to do is try to find a console that has the best balance of features with the best interface that anyone can use.

But really what's most important to us is, how do we create a system that is both unique and affordable so that everyone can afford it and everyone can enjoy it."

At end of next year PS4/XboxOne will probably have price around $300 (XboxOne now is $350 and holiday promotions go near $300) and NX will probably be weaker than PS4/XboxOne.

If you look all that facts, they clearly want again something like Wii not Wii U, like i wrote: again affordable console (around $249) with good gimmick (Wii motion controls were very strong, while gamepad completely failed) maybe that hybrid device or something similar.






Considering the Wii-U is more powerful than PS3 and Xbox 360, I think it's fair to assume their next console will be more powerful than a PS4. You have to remember that the PS4 isn't what the PS3 was power wise in comparison to it's generation. If Nintendo put that same horse power in a console shipping 2016? They would actually end up making money.



AlfredoTurkey said:
Considering the Wii-U is more powerful than PS3 and Xbox 360, I think it's fair to assume their next console will be more powerful than a PS4. You have to remember that the PS4 isn't what the PS3 was power wise in comparison to it's generation. If Nintendo put that same horse power in a console shipping 2016? They would actually end up making money.


Only parts of the wii u spec is superior to 360 and PS3, the cpu performance of the 360 and PS3 is considerably stronger.

Nintendo don't like spending a lot on hardware but I think they realise by now the wii u was unacceptable as a console not even able to outperform consoles overall that data back to 2005/6. I don't know what Nintendo's next console is but assuming its not some low power android type console but a proper console capable of competing with xbox one and ps4 then I think they will choose hardware that is both low cost and has highish performance. Hence the newer AMD architecture which will be released in 2016. 

Of course we could all be completely wrong but Nintendo must surely realise that to stay in the game they have to be more competitive on hardware design.