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Aeolus451 on 30 July 2015
Danuch said:
Aeolus451 said:

Any change done through executive orders like he's done will not result in meaningful and long lasting change since it can all just as easily be reversed by the next president. The reason why he didn't work with congress on things like immigration is because he would of had to comprimise on certain things in order to get it passed. That's the way it's supposed to work. Of course, extremely left-leaning bills won't go through congress when it's controlled by republicans but that's the party people wanted in control of congress. 

Obama wanted to push his party's agenda regardless of what anyone else thinks. He's a horrible president because he doesn't even follow the law or have any foresight.

The nuclear deal with iran will probably end with us going to war over there once Iran starts to do what it wants. Using planes only against ISIS is not a viable strategy to stop them. He adds fuel onto race issues. Al Sharpton is a advisor/friend of his that's an openly racist bigot that uses race issues to profit from.  His executive order on immigration is illegal and will probably cost millions to fix.  He broke the law trading 5 high ranking taliban for that traitor bergdahl.

 

I understand you bro.

But would you rather have a president like Geroge Bush how acctually was more of a puppet then a man with a clear conscious and critical thinking? I rather see a USA president that can see threw the lines and not one like Geroge Bush how just did what he was told. And we have seen what happens when the congress get what they want., a la Geroge Bush invading Iraq and Afganhistan, cost the USA citizens 1,1 trillon dollars at the end 2010 and 2,47 trillon dollar by 2017. Now iam not a American and i dont need to understand politics and such but thats a waste of money. And above that anti-americansism is growing more and more over the world. European countries are battling with refugess from the middle east. I dont see the US helping these refugess in anyway.

The reason for ISIS being so strong today is actually all the Americans fault, if Saddam would have stayed in power he would have slaughtered every terorist. But instead the American goverment choose to attack and kill him. Which is ironic because the US goverment put Saddam in power in Iraq to fight the Iranian goverment (Khomeini) which the US goverment help get to power. Funny isnt it? I bet Geroge Bush didnt know this and so does none of the Republican candidates there just money and power hungry idiots.

Like Jimi Hendrix said: When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the the world will know peace.

Ummm, yeah the actual world is not just like a magical girl anime.



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Robert_Downey_Jr. on 30 July 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Eddie_Raja said:

That makes no sense as a reason to not work with him lol.  I don't agree with most of his policies or political views - but he is a strong leader, and congress is currently led by a munch of followers.

How so? He's went around congress on things he shouldn't have and republicans are mad over it. Relublicans not working with him for the most part after that to spite him makes perfect sense. 

I have to disagree on the strong leader part. Russia, China and North Korea think he's a joke. He's pissing off some of our allies and downsizing the military to dangerous levels. He's a weak leader but he has a strong following. 

yeah his foreign policy is pretty attrocious.  

Also I love how everyone ignores the fact that under his watch out dept continues to grow leaps and bounds and yet Bush was crucified for that happening to far less of an extent (rightly so but just saying both should be held accountable).  The thing I hate is that any time I try to bring up Obama's shortcomings as president people assume I loved Bush and am a racist.  It's such a messed up attitude liberals have these days that they assume the only type of conservative is the worst possible type.  Should I assume all liberals are eco-terrorists?



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Leadified on 30 July 2015

Considering the current candidates, I don't think there is any doubt. I can't blame him for getting excited for his term to be over, the stress is through the roof.



Eddie_Raja on 30 July 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Eddie_Raja said:

That makes no sense as a reason to not work with him lol.  I don't agree with most of his policies or political views - but he is a strong leader, and congress is currently led by a munch of followers.

How so? He's went around congress on things he shouldn't have and republicans are mad over it. Relublicans not working with him for the most part after that to spite him makes perfect sense. 

I have to disagree on the strong leader part. Russia, China and North Korea think he's a joke. He's pissing off some of our allies and downsizing the military to dangerous levels. He's a weak leader but he has a strong following. 


Russia and North Korea?  Really bub?

Yeah I hear the guy in the cardboard box down the streat doesn't like him either.  Should Obama care?



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Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

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3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

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Zappykins on 30 July 2015

He probably could, but will not run.

The funny thing is wackies have been saying this for years, so he sort of called them out on it. They are the same ones that think he is a 'Mooz Lem' - as if that would matter, and born in Africa (which would matter.)

I think he is just saying that with humor to see if people's heads really do explode.



 

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Aeolus451 on 31 July 2015
Eddie_Raja said:
Aeolus451 said:

How so? He's went around congress on things he shouldn't have and republicans are mad over it. Relublicans not working with him for the most part after that to spite him makes perfect sense. 

I have to disagree on the strong leader part. Russia, China and North Korea think he's a joke. He's pissing off some of our allies and downsizing the military to dangerous levels. He's a weak leader but he has a strong following. 


Russia and North Korea?  Really bub?

Yeah I hear the guy in the cardboard box down the streat doesn't like him either.  Should Obama care?

Ah, now you're getting it. He just doesn't care about the whole of the US.

Seriously, we shouldn't underestimate russia. Might want to lay off the anti-russia propaganda. All it does is breeds more animosity between our countries over nothing. 



Aeolus451 on 31 July 2015
Robert_Downey_Jr. said:
Aeolus451 said:

How so? He's went around congress on things he shouldn't have and republicans are mad over it. Relublicans not working with him for the most part after that to spite him makes perfect sense. 

I have to disagree on the strong leader part. Russia, China and North Korea think he's a joke. He's pissing off some of our allies and downsizing the military to dangerous levels. He's a weak leader but he has a strong following. 

yeah his foreign policy is pretty attrocious.  

Also I love how everyone ignores the fact that under his watch out dept continues to grow leaps and bounds and yet Bush was crucified for that happening to far less of an extent (rightly so but just saying both should be held accountable).  The thing I hate is that any time I try to bring up Obama's shortcomings as president people assume I loved Bush and am a racist.  It's such a messed up attitude liberals have these days that they assume the only type of conservative is the worst possible type.  Should I assume all liberals are eco-terrorists?

Yep. I agree. I'm very used to catching some shit when I do talk about politics. I like to debate so it works for me. 

To be fair, both sides have very extreme fanatics and any time a camera is around, we try to gag them and hide them under a rug.



Jimbo1337 on 31 July 2015
Danuch said:

I understand you bro.

But would you rather have a president like Geroge Bush how acctually was more of a puppet then a man with a clear conscious and critical thinking? I rather see a USA president that can see threw the lines and not one like Geroge Bush how just did what he was told. And we have seen what happens when the congress get what they want., a la Geroge Bush invading Iraq and Afganhistan, cost the USA citizens 1,1 trillon dollars at the end 2010 and 2,47 trillon dollar by 2017. Now iam not a American and i dont need to understand politics and such but thats a waste of money. And above that anti-americansism is growing more and more over the world. European countries are battling with refugess from the middle east. I dont see the US helping these refugess in anyway.

The reason for ISIS being so strong today is actually all the Americans fault, if Saddam would have stayed in power he would have slaughtered every terorist. But instead the American goverment choose to attack and kill him. Which is ironic because the US goverment put Saddam in power in Iraq to fight the Iranian goverment (Khomeini) which the US goverment help get to power. Funny isnt it? I bet Geroge Bush didnt know this and so does none of the Republican candidates there just money and power hungry idiots.

Like Jimi Hendrix said: When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the the world will know peace.

Bill Clinton wanted to invade Iraq when nobody else was talking about them during his presidency.  So why are you blaming Bush for the things that every president would have done if they were in his shoes at the time.

The reason for ISIS is Obama's fault!  We had military bases over there and Obama made everyone come home.  What did Obama think would happen? By removing our troops out of Iraq like that, Obama ended up creating a power vacuum.  You remove the US troops, then another power needs to fill that void (ISIS).  

Obama walks into a room and he thinks that he is the smartest man in the room.  You talk to anyone in the US military and they will all say that he is a complete and utter moron when it comes to making the right military decisions.  

So now we spent like 2 trillion dollars for the war on Iraq and we have nothing to show for it.



Eddie_Raja on 31 July 2015
Aeolus451 said:
Eddie_Raja said:


Russia and North Korea?  Really bub?

Yeah I hear the guy in the cardboard box down the streat doesn't like him either.  Should Obama care?

Ah, now you're getting it. He just doesn't care about the whole of the US.

Seriously, we shouldn't underestimate russia. Might want to lay off the anti-russia propaganda. All it does is breeds more animosity between our countries over nothing. 

Anti-Russian?!  I only said I don't take them seriously.  They constantly get mad the west doesn't treat them like a first world country, and that is because THEY ARE NOT.  

If Russia want's to be taken seriously, they need to start acting like they should be taken seriously.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Aeolus451 on 31 July 2015
Eddie_Raja said:
Aeolus451 said:

Ah, now you're getting it. He just doesn't care about the whole of the US.

Seriously, we shouldn't underestimate russia. Might want to lay off the anti-russia propaganda. All it does is breeds more animosity between our countries over nothing. 

Anti-Russian?!  I only said I don't take them seriously.  They constantly get mad the west doesn't treat them like a first world country, and that is because THEY ARE NOT.  

If Russia want's to be taken seriously, they need to start acting like they should be taken seriously.


Yep, anti-russian.  That whole three world model is outdated and should probably stop being used. It's not revelant today. Technically, Russia is second world.