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Ryng on 02 August 2015
Teeqoz said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

And why Sony don't say HOW the PS3 did this quarter if so? :P


Because shipments are so small by now that they are irrelevant to the overall result of Sony in the quarter. Don't worry though, we will probably get a milestone when/if it reaches 90 million shipped.

That's much better.

I hate when A company don't say how much has sold / shipped... well, at least better than Microsoft. :P



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Conina on 02 August 2015
Ryng_Tolu said:

I hate when A company don't say how much has sold / shipped... well, at least better than Microsoft. :P

Yeah, if there's one thing we can all agree on this site, it's the exemplary transparency of Nintendo's quarterly reports.



Farsala on 02 August 2015
Ryng_Tolu said:
Farsala said:
So vvii at the same point in time is 29.62m shipped vs the PS4 25.3m shipped. PS4 is still vvithin 85% of the vvii.

I think a price cut and some killer softvvare could keep it close. PS4 could be price cut 4 times (increments of $50) compared to vvii 2 times.

By end of 2009, the Wii was at 67.45 million shipped... The PS4 will be lucky if will break 55 million by end of 2016. and the PS4 will probabily peak in the 3rd year, so after that is all in decrease for PS4... i can't see how can recover this 12 million gap ( and most likely more, probabily more close to 13/14 million )...

And the Wii has also ship 17.20 million in 2010 ( year 4), that's probabily what will ship the PS4 in the peak year, maybe a bit more...

And pls, for the Sony fans, don't talk about "HOW MUCH PS4 HAS OUTSOLD THE PS3!!!!!!!!!!!" because you already see oh the think can change...

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=202511

The peaks and overall sales patterns vvill be different then the vvii. The vvii essentially had 2 $50 pricecuts and had peaks and stability around those pricecuts. The PS4 has 2 $100 pricecuts for the same or more effect, or 4 $50 pricecuts for less effect. The NX vvill also release during a time of PS4 dominance and that could shake things up.

 

I only expect a $50 (12.5% of total) pricecut by the end of 2016 vvhich is less effective then the $50 (20% of total) pricecut for the vvii. But if it is a $100 (25% of total) pricecut then I think it can keep up vvith the vvii quite vvell.



Nintyfan90 on 02 August 2015
Farsala said:
Ryng_Tolu said:
Farsala said:
So vvii at the same point in time is 29.62m shipped vs the PS4 25.3m shipped. PS4 is still vvithin 85% of the vvii.

I think a price cut and some killer softvvare could keep it close. PS4 could be price cut 4 times (increments of $50) compared to vvii 2 times.

By end of 2009, the Wii was at 67.45 million shipped... The PS4 will be lucky if will break 55 million by end of 2016. and the PS4 will probabily peak in the 3rd year, so after that is all in decrease for PS4... i can't see how can recover this 12 million gap ( and most likely more, probabily more close to 13/14 million )...

And the Wii has also ship 17.20 million in 2010 ( year 4), that's probabily what will ship the PS4 in the peak year, maybe a bit more...

And pls, for the Sony fans, don't talk about "HOW MUCH PS4 HAS OUTSOLD THE PS3!!!!!!!!!!!" because you already see oh the think can change...

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=202511

The peaks and overall sales patterns vvill be different then the vvii. The vvii essentially had 2 $50 pricecuts and had peaks and stability around those pricecuts. The PS4 has 2 $100 pricecuts for the same or more effect, or 4 $50 pricecuts for less effect. The NX vvill also release during a time of PS4 dominance and that could shake things up.

 

I only expect a $50 (12.5% of total) pricecut by the end of 2016 vvhich is less effective then the $50 (20% of total) pricecut for the vvii. But if it is a $100 (25% of total) pricecut then I think it can keep up vvith the vvii quite vvell.

Will it have a price cut this year though? Without a price cut it will be in some serious trouble against Wii. Sony's own projections put it at what 38.8M shipped by the end of March 2016? The Wii was at 50M by the end of March 2009? That price cut at the end of 2016 would be effected by this year's price cut.



Farsala on 02 August 2015
Nintyfan90 said:
Farsala said:
Ryng_Tolu said:
Farsala said:
So vvii at the same point in time is 29.62m shipped vs the PS4 25.3m shipped. PS4 is still vvithin 85% of the vvii.

I think a price cut and some killer softvvare could keep it close. PS4 could be price cut 4 times (increments of $50) compared to vvii 2 times.

By end of 2009, the Wii was at 67.45 million shipped... The PS4 will be lucky if will break 55 million by end of 2016. and the PS4 will probabily peak in the 3rd year, so after that is all in decrease for PS4... i can't see how can recover this 12 million gap ( and most likely more, probabily more close to 13/14 million )...

And the Wii has also ship 17.20 million in 2010 ( year 4), that's probabily what will ship the PS4 in the peak year, maybe a bit more...

And pls, for the Sony fans, don't talk about "HOW MUCH PS4 HAS OUTSOLD THE PS3!!!!!!!!!!!" because you already see oh the think can change...

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=202511

The peaks and overall sales patterns vvill be different then the vvii. The vvii essentially had 2 $50 pricecuts and had peaks and stability around those pricecuts. The PS4 has 2 $100 pricecuts for the same or more effect, or 4 $50 pricecuts for less effect. The NX vvill also release during a time of PS4 dominance and that could shake things up.

 

I only expect a $50 (12.5% of total) pricecut by the end of 2016 vvhich is less effective then the $50 (20% of total) pricecut for the vvii. But if it is a $100 (25% of total) pricecut then I think it can keep up vvith the vvii quite vvell.

Will it have a price cut this year though? Without a price cut it will be in some serious trouble against Wii. Sony's own projections put it at what 38.8M shipped by the end of March 2016? The Wii was at 50M by the end of March 2009? That price cut at the end of 2016 would be effected by this year's price cut.


Who knows? They might pull a MS, and only cut it permanently after the holidays in the next year. If they all of a sudden revise their PS4 forecast vvay up then they might cut it. I don't expect 2 pricecuts from them though.



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Nintyfan90 on 02 August 2015
Farsala said:
Nintyfan90 said:

Will it have a price cut this year though? Without a price cut it will be in some serious trouble against Wii. Sony's own projections put it at what 38.8M shipped by the end of March 2016? The Wii was at 50M by the end of March 2009? That price cut at the end of 2016 would be effected by this year's price cut.


Who knows? They might pull a MS, and only cut it permanently after the holidays in the next year. If they all of a sudden revise their PS4 forecast vvay up then they might cut it. I don't expect 2 pricecuts from them though.

What would be an example of way up to you? I honestly think the price cut is included in the 16.5M forecast.



Farsala on 02 August 2015
Nintyfan90 said:
Farsala said:


Who knows? They might pull a MS, and only cut it permanently after the holidays in the next year. If they all of a sudden revise their PS4 forecast vvay up then they might cut it. I don't expect 2 pricecuts from them though.

What would be an example of way up to you? I honestly think the price cut is included in the 16.5M forecast.


1.5m+. I think most thought that the original forecast was too low. But sometimes Sony plays it safe.



Nintyfan90 on 02 August 2015
Farsala said:
Nintyfan90 said:

What would be an example of way up to you? I honestly think the price cut is included in the 16.5M forecast.


1.5m+. I think most thought that the original forecast was too low. But sometimes Sony plays it safe.

What "most" think on this site is irrelevant. Sonys projections show 16.5M which may or may not include the price cut. The only thing that matters is rather Sony would actually hold out until April without a price cut. I'm thinking no which means that projection includes the price cut.



KazumaKiryu on 04 August 2015
Angelv577 said:
I didn't expect 3m ps4, well done.

yes. but i have a question:

 

why dont buy sony capcom in japan? the playstation systems are bigger then and sony make more profit. and japan is sure than in the future for the console.



DerNebel on 04 August 2015
KazumaKiryu said:
Angelv577 said:
I didn't expect 3m ps4, well done.

yes. but i have a question:

 

why dont buy sony capcom in japan? the playstation systems are bigger then and sony make more profit. and japan is sure than in the future for the console.

Because Capcom isn't a good purchase, especially for a platform holder.