So scince last year on youtube and on many other gaming related forums people argue about "downgrades" and "bad graphics" and in their opinion, they suffer from the "bad consoles".

I tried to think about this blame from a neutral/developers viewpoint and i came to the conclusion, it isnt justified. Here are my arguments:

1. Pc gaming is relativly unrelevant. More People do play multiplattsform games on consoles. Developer should focus on their biggest market

2. Actual AAA-titles (like Witcher 3) wouldnt be possible at all in this quality without console versions, because the pc sales would never fit the developement costs.

3. There are already alot pc exclusive games but they are mostly looking even worse then multiplattform games on pc.

4. PC gamer dont pay alot for software. Some do pirate, many do use VPN´s/Keystores, Steamsales and co to buy cheap digitally. So when a console gamer pay 60 bucks for a game like witcher 3, a pc gamer will pay only like 10-30 bucks. Even if you substract sonys/microsofts licensing costs, a developer will still earn more money per sold console game as per sold pc game.

So why should PC gamers get a better experience as a console gamer if they buy less copies at all and also pay less per copy? PC gamers should be thankfull that they get mostly slightly better graphics at all. There is no justify for this at all. Scince they pay less for their software, it would be more fair if they get a inferior product.

If a game development have a Budget of 10 mil. Why should anybody  spend anything from this budget to make a graphical superior pc version? The money should be used to make a as good as possible experience on all plattforms which is similar on quality on all 3 plattforms. Because: For each graphical pc upgrade, you have to cut off ressources for the consoles versions. There is no infinite budget and anytime when you put ressources/money into something (pc graphics) anything else will suffer. That wouldnt be fair.

Your thoughts?

Um.. PC Gaming revenue has overtaken console..  it did so in 2014.. and its increasing..     Console gaming revenue has been shrinking (although it did see a postive in June)..   so..  this makes your first point and most other points..   well.. incorrect..

1. just console multipalts
2. some yes, some not
3. sure, and some look better like star citizen or the next anno
4. you still can earn a lot or even more on pc. you also don't have do deal with retail cuts and distribution. piracy is as low as it never was thanks to steam, gog, keyseller and cheap humble bundles...

Except PC gamers paid the same price as console gamers for Arkham Knight, and, if SteamSpy is at all reliable, PC sales were too good for WB to have any excuse for the piss poor port we got. The Witcher 3 on PC also sold as well or better than the Xbone version, at full price, or at the most $10 off. Plenty of console ports are selling near or over 1mil on PC these days, which I think justifies an at least decent port.

Even besides that, most of the time PC games don't really have any "more" graphical features than consoles, they're basically the same as console titles, just essentially with a few "sliders" bumped up. Higher res, better textures, AA, AO, framerate, etc, which afaik are pretty easy to implement, so why not put those options in the games? Especially when you have people paying $5000 for a rig to get the absolute best experience.

^^ You need to shop around more if you are paying more than half price for PC games over their console prices. Check out the likes of CDkeys instead.

1.  While I try to look past the fact that "unrelevant" is not a word, I'll just tell you that's not true.  PC gaming is as relevant as ever.

4.  You forgot to mention that the PC version is digital, so there is no manufacturing cost.  That $60 console game includes the disc, the box, the shipping, the retailer's cut, and, if they still include it, the manual.  Yes, I know that same game will still be $60 if bought digitally, but most console games are bought physically, where nearly all PC games are bought digitally.

PC revenue from free to play titles like MOBA's etc. He did not say console is the biggest market, but for AAA games, it is. Even the highly PC centric Witcher 3 has sold substantially more on consoles than PC (2.7 million on consoles versus 1.3 million on PC).

Fact of the matter is, AAAs perform (substantially) better on consoles. So that makes his points...well...correct for what he was talking about.

You didn't seem to get the point (although PC gaming being irrelevant is a harsh generalization) .

Where do you think the PC revenue is coming from mostly? Definitely not from the games that are also on consoles. And that's the point of this thread really.

"DFC says that MOBA (multiplayer online battle arena) titles like League of Legends and DotA 2 “dominate everything else by an order of magnitude in terms of more usage than other products,” followed by MMOs, strategy games, and shooters."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/04/28/as-global-pc-game-revenue-surpasses-consoles-how-long-should-console-makers-keep-fighting/

PC gamers pay a premium for their system (often 2-3x as much as consoles), so them complaining about marginally superior multiplats is understandable to a point. It's not console gamers' fault PC gamers are buying power beyond what is necessary, though. Kind of like buying a high power sports car and then complaining about the low speed limits.

Don't sites like that require that someone else buy the game from a legitimate seller first, sort of like used games? Why else would they ever run out of stock?