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sasquatchmontana said:
Snoopy said:

I can't help but feel that Microsoft makes some great moves, like backwards compatability, resolving a lot of resolution gate issues (eventhough I never found it a big deal) and releasing great games. However, everytime they make great decisions, they take two steps back. With the money they invested into tomb raider they could've made phantom dust or a new ip.

Microsoft *is* investing into Phantom Dust and is making a new IP (oh lets say that IP is .......Gigantic) ....with regards to Tomb Raider its.... not like.....Microsoft is.......STRAPPED FOR CASH.PFFFTTTTTHAHAHAHA!

  • Bought Gears, Bought Minecraft, Bought Rise of Nations.
  • Own Scalebound, Quantum Break, Ori, Screamride.
  • Got dibs on Ryse and Sunset Overdrive.
  • Revived Killer Instinct and Phantom Dust
  • Keeping that Gears, Halo, Forza M

Prefer this over Knack, The Order and Driveclub (RIP in Peace)

 




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Black Tusk Studios was making 3 AAA games?????



TheSting said:
Black Tusk Studios was making 3 AAA games?????


Yep http://www.shacknews.com/article/77683/black-tusk-studios-working-on-four-microsoft-ips

"The Vancouver-based outfit had big ambitions, staffing up to make a new franchise on the scale of the Halo series" Seriously disappointing :/

Kinda sad we will never know  their own studio original creation, could have been good or bad, but still interesting to see " Ok now stop your 4 games, forget it and everyone go on Gears 4 "



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Landguy said:
SWORDF1SH said:

I think he is saying that the game would of came out for the X1 no matter what. The deal made was more than likely to delay it coming to the PS4 rather than expediting the X1 version. IF this is the case then it doesn't benefit gamers. Of couse we are all persuming.

I knew what he meant.  The truth is that he is just as likely or maybe more so than my theories.  We as forum dwellers take the lack of information and fill it in with whatever fits either common sense or our personal agenda.  We will probably never really know it of course it really doesn't matter.  The reality is that unless actual content is held back like the destiny deal, how could it really hurt the gamer.  They can buy an XB1 no or just wait a year and play it then.  No actual harm, just the self righteous belief that companys owe gamers certain things.  Its a business, they have to do what makes the most financial success.

I should of added some facts to why I think it's more than likely MS paying to delay the PS4 version.

The franchise is now in great condition. The franchise has good momentum behind it. It's far from a game that needs help financially. 8.5M copies sold http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-04-06-tomb-raider-reboot-has-sold-8-5m-copies

Game was profitable by the end of 2013 needing to sell 5M copies (budget of $100M but also the cost to reboot the series and advertise the shit out of it - future sequels will not need as much money to get off the ground). So the other 3.5M is pure profit. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-01-17-tomb-raider-finally-achieved-profitability-by-the-end-of-last-year

TR reboot is the highest selling TR of all time. It not a series that's it struggling and certainly not a series that needs MSs money. This why I'm led to believe the deal is about getting more rather than needing it.



Aerys said:
TheSting said:
Black Tusk Studios was making 3 AAA games?????


Yep http://www.shacknews.com/article/77683/black-tusk-studios-working-on-four-microsoft-ips

"The Vancouver-based outfit had big ambitions, staffing up to make a new franchise on the scale of the Halo series" Seriously disappointing :/

Kinda sad we will never know  their own studio original creation, could have been good or bad, but still interesting to see " Ok now stop your 4 games, forget it and everyone go on Gears 4 "

Do we actually know these have been cancelled? Gears 4 could well be the main project for the studio but that deson't mean they've stopped all other projects. AAA titles can take time to develop before the first public announcement.



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Scoobes said:
Aerys said:
TheSting said:
Black Tusk Studios was making 3 AAA games?????


Yep http://www.shacknews.com/article/77683/black-tusk-studios-working-on-four-microsoft-ips

"The Vancouver-based outfit had big ambitions, staffing up to make a new franchise on the scale of the Halo series" Seriously disappointing :/

Kinda sad we will never know  their own studio original creation, could have been good or bad, but still interesting to see " Ok now stop your 4 games, forget it and everyone go on Gears 4 "

Do we actually know these have been cancelled? Gears 4 could well be the main project for the studio but that deson't mean they've stopped all other projects. AAA titles can take time to develop before the first public announcement.

At best 3 were concepts,with Shangheist as the lucky winner until the Gears purchase put the kibosh on it. If you're looking to pitch a new ip, you make several concepts, you present them to your publisher and they decide which to pursue.



Vasto said:
sasquatchmontana said:
Snoopy said:

I can't help but feel that Microsoft makes some great moves, like backwards compatability, resolving a lot of resolution gate issues (eventhough I never found it a big deal) and releasing great games. However, everytime they make great decisions, they take two steps back. With the money they invested into tomb raider they could've made phantom dust or a new ip.

Microsoft *is* investing into Phantom Dust and is making a new IP (oh lets say that IP is .......Gigantic) ....with regards to Tomb Raider its.... not like.....Microsoft is.......STRAPPED FOR CASH.PFFFTTTTTHAHAHAHA!

  • Bought Gears, Bought Minecraft, Bought Rise of Nations.
  • Own Scalebound, Quantum Break, Ori, Screamride.
  • Got dibs on Ryse and Sunset Overdrive.
  • Revived Killer Instinct and Phantom Dust
  • Keeping that Gears, Halo, Forza M

Prefer this over Knack, The Order and Driveclub (RIP in Peace)

 



Microsoft should use Minecraft as a well to sell xbox one systems. Make "Minecraft 2"(or w/e they will call it) an xbox one / PC exclusive. That will sell a lot of xboxes.



Snoopy said:
assclown said:
MS have no talent to make they own game period so they paid huge sum of $$$$ to get other game exclusive
(that show how they afraid of the competitor)


Scalebound, quantum break, recore?

You're not arguing  his point. You're only proving it. The hottest games coming for them aren't made by anything but their money.



"MS doesn't have any new IPS"

"OK, MS does have new IPS, but they don't own the ip"

"OK, they do own the IP, but they don't own the studio"

"Why does MS keep buying studios instead of building them internally like Sony did with Naughty Dog, Media Molecule, Suckerpunch and Geurilla Games?"

6 more years of this.



sasquatchmontana said:

"MS doesn't have any new IPS"

"OK, MS does have new IPS, but they don't own the ip"

"OK, they do own the IP, but they don't own the studio

"Why does MS keep buying studios instead of building them internally like Sony did with Naughty Dog, Media Molecule, Suckerpunch and Geurilla Games?"

6 more years of this.

Literally, this.