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Rafie said:
IamAwsome said:

Project Spark, Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, Quantum Break, ReCore, Scalebound, and Sea of Thieves. 

Aren't those games 2nd party? Just curious...

Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, Quantum Break, ReCore, and Scalebound are all made by third-party developers, which some people call "second-party", thought there technically is no such thing.

Sea of Thieves is Lionhead?  Oh, wait, that's the Rare game, which means it's completely first-party.  Project Spark I believe is made by an internal Microsoft team. 



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Rafie said:
IamAwsome said:

Project Spark, Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, Quantum Break, ReCore, Scalebound, and Sea of Thieves. 

Aren't those games 2nd party? Just curious...


SO and Ryse not own by MS, all others he listed are own by MS.



pokoko said:
Rafie said:

Aren't those games 2nd party? Just curious...

Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, Quantum Break, ReCore, and Scalebound are all made by third-party developers, which some people call "second-party", thought there technically is no such thing.

Sea of Thieves is Lionhead?  Oh, wait, that's the Rare game, which means it's completely first-party.  Project Spark I believe is made by an internal Microsoft team. 


Oh okay. Thanks for the explanation.



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D-Joe said:
Rafie said:

Aren't those games 2nd party? Just curious...


SO and Ryse not own by MS, all others he listed are own by MS.


When a 3rd party developer develops a game exclusively for a platform, it's a first party game?



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Rafie said:
IamAwsome said:

Project Spark, Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, Quantum Break, ReCore, Scalebound, and Sea of Thieves. 

Aren't those games 2nd party? Just curious...

Why does it matter? Sony and NIntendo publish plenty of second party games and those are considered "Sony/Nintendo new IPs". 

As for Sunset Overdrive, Insomniac owns the IP, and that's why they went to MS. I honestly didn't know that until I looked it up just now. 



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Rafie said:
D-Joe said:


SO and Ryse not own by MS, all others he listed are own by MS.


When a 3rd party developer develops a game exclusively for a platform, it's a first party game?


Because the IP are own by MS=they can do whatever they want to the game, like MS can suddenly goes crazy and tell Turn10 make Scalebound 2.



D-Joe said:
Rafie said:


When a 3rd party developer develops a game exclusively for a platform, it's a first party game?


Because the IP are own by MS=they can do whatever they want to the game, like MS can suddenly goes crazy and tell Turn10 make Scalebound 2.


Got it. Thank you. I'm learning a lot today. Hehe I was always confused about how that works. Glad you cleared that up for me.



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Rafie said:
D-Joe said:


SO and Ryse not own by MS, all others he listed are own by MS.


When a 3rd party developer develops a game exclusively for a platform, it's a first party game?

I've seen peole claim that games like The Wonderful 101, The Order:1886, and Heavy Rain are 1st party new IPs despite all of those games being developed by 3rd party studios. 



IamAwsome said:
Rafie said:

Aren't those games 2nd party? Just curious...

Why does it matter? Sony and NIntendo publish plenty of second party games and those are considered "Sony/Nintendo new IPs". 

As for Sunset Overdrive, Insomniac owns the IP, and that's why they went to MS. I honestly didn't know that until I looked it up just now. 


I was just asking a question I seriously didn't know the answer to. Oh and I didn't know SO was Insomniac's. I thought MS paid for that game.



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IamAwsome said:
Rafie said:


When a 3rd party developer develops a game exclusively for a platform, it's a first party game?

I've seen peole claim that games like The Wonderful 101, The Order:1886, and Heavy Rain are 1st party new IPs despite all of those games being developed by 3rd party studios. 


Ahhh touche. I didn't even think about that.  Although I have seen people here say that The Order is 2nd party since Ready At Dawn isn't a Sony studio. Just that the IP belongs to Sony. That's why I've been asking these questions to clear things up. A lot of you have vast knowledge on these things already.



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