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GribbleGrunger said:

I've never known a group of gamers to twist a narrative so quickly on nearly every damn story they get wrong.

'Rise of the Tombraider is an XB1 exclusive'
'No it isn't, it's a timed exclusive.'
'Spencer has said it's an exclusive.'
'No he didn't. He swerved the question.'
'He said it was like the Dead Rising deal which proves it's an XB1 exclusive'
'It will be on the PS4 6 months after the XB1'
'LOL. It's NOT coming to the PS4. Give up and accept it.'
'Spencer said there was a time involved in the exclusivity.'
'Yes, for the PC port.'
'Why only a PC port?'
'Why are you so butt hurt? It's NOT coming to the PS4.'
'We'll see ... I'll say around 6 months.'
'I can't wait to see you eat crow.'

PS4 version announced

'I told you it was coming to the PS4'
'Yes but you said 6 months. I win.'

Your gloating has backfired. At least have the humility to accept it. What you need to ask yourself is how did we know and why were we so certain? Then read what Spencer has said without the filter.

Every side has some crow eating to do. xD

Those who said it ain't coming to the PS4 and the 6 months time line. lol!



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binary solo said:

So true. I can't believe people are coming here and saying "Ha! It's 1 year not 6 months, IN YOUR FACE!" well not those exact words, but that's the save they're trying to make after hoping and dreaming that it would be a premanent console exclusive. What's interesting in this is that we even had some people who are pretty neutral come down in favour of the most likely scenario being permanent console exclusive. People really were fooled by the spin. And it was spin, if there ever has been spin in this industry, this is definitely it. Or maybe people allowed themselves to be fooled by the spin because they so very much wanted the spin not to be spin and for it to be true. 

I don't think I've ever witnessed people so determined that a game must be console exclusive based on information almost from the day it was announced as Xbox exclusive in 2015 that has clearly always strongly implied the exact opposite. Sure there are other examples of arguments about exclusivity, most notably MGS4, but the available information supported the conjecture that the game would probably always be exclusive, so at least when PS3 folks argued strongly that MGS4 would not come to 360, they had information that strongly supported their case. This situation never backed up the desire by some people that PS4 gamers should forever be denied Tomb Raider.

Don't worry bro, N4G is much worse. If you need painkillers I can give you the link. lol! xD



NobleTeam360 said:
The Fury said:

I don't think I ever 'guessed'. I don't really care, don't like Tomb Raider. I'm trying to point out you seem a little happy people got it wrong.

Not happy, like you I'm just pointing something out

"You have some people saying this game will end up on PS4 but have no evidence to support that claim -_____-. I just get the feeling this game will be like Dead Rising 3 and Ryse, PC version will come like 6 months later and I doubt a PS4 version will come."


In the sake of just pointing things out.. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6905648 You really shouldn't get so happy and try to bash others, or as you call it gleefully "point things out" when you were way way wrong and one of the few on this site that held the belief until this news that it was never coming to ps4.



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walsufnir said:
Zekkyou said:

I personally think that simply not making jabs at a single fanbase for only being half-right is a better approach to a discussion. Stuff like that just perpetuates the 'us and them' nonsense that's so prevalent on gaming forums. I don't think that was your intention, but it's all comment like that ever accomplish, even when there isn't a similarly popular counter opinion on the 'other side'. Ah well, each to their own i suppose ^^


I just want to make fun, seriously. The wars are in full engage mode everywhere. Terms like "salty" "eat crow soon!", all this stuff when people are happy that others are angry. We are talking about games here and that is, in the end, something we do in our spare time to have fun.

Now it's happening that PS4 is winning and will continue to do so which makes people think they also "win" and have a certain attitude against other users who chose the "wrong" console for being also "wrong" by default, no matter what they say. Are there still good and bad users on both sides? Definitely! But we have to see that there is a certain inbalance in discussions on GAF and here.

Let's take the 1080p-threads as of late. These threads are full of people talking about 1080pr and all the stuff but almost no one from the "other" side is able to say "good for xbone. I am glad they get better resolution in the end". No, of course not. We see comments about how bad MS is, how desperate they are, how weak the hardware is and these posts are way more in a thread where most people don't even own the console where the game is going to be released. And I guess this side can easily cope with a post like mine ;)

Have you considered that maybe the reason there are so many comments about how bad MS is, is legitimately because MS is doing something bad? I mean if it wasn't for people pointing that shit out MS would have never improved and wouldn't be continuing to improve. PC, Nintendo, and Sony fans don't look at Xb1 hardcore fans as "wrong" because ps4 is winning, it's because 90% of the time they are proven wrong. Then they have a certain arrogance about them where they not only ignore that they were mistaken and try to learn from it but end up trying to twist things so that they were still somehow right, after of course demonizing those that point out their mistake. I mean if fanbases were people at this point Xbox would be donald trump. Meanwhile those in the Sony, Nintendo, and PC camps continue to be optimistic and regularly point out good things about MS. Like the fact they got rid of kinect, that was great. Their new version of backwards compatibility, fantastic. The fact that we'll be able to play any Xb1 game on a windows 10 pc. Amazing news which all camps for the most part have shown appreciation for. Meanwhile with the exception of maybe 1-2 people the Xbox camp can only ever insult, downplay, and deny. "ps4 has no games, indies aren't games they don't count" "Nintendo is doomed, they are trash kid games with no 3rd party support" "PC are over priced elitists, Xbox is made for games, steam machine is going to fail hard". There isn't an imbalance, Xbox hardcore fans bring it on themselves every single time.



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Nicklesbe said:
walsufnir said:


I just want to make fun, seriously. The wars are in full engage mode everywhere. Terms like "salty" "eat crow soon!", all this stuff when people are happy that others are angry. We are talking about games here and that is, in the end, something we do in our spare time to have fun.

Now it's happening that PS4 is winning and will continue to do so which makes people think they also "win" and have a certain attitude against other users who chose the "wrong" console for being also "wrong" by default, no matter what they say. Are there still good and bad users on both sides? Definitely! But we have to see that there is a certain inbalance in discussions on GAF and here.

Let's take the 1080p-threads as of late. These threads are full of people talking about 1080pr and all the stuff but almost no one from the "other" side is able to say "good for xbone. I am glad they get better resolution in the end". No, of course not. We see comments about how bad MS is, how desperate they are, how weak the hardware is and these posts are way more in a thread where most people don't even own the console where the game is going to be released. And I guess this side can easily cope with a post like mine ;)

Have you considered that maybe the reason there are so many comments about how bad MS is, is legitimately because MS is doing something bad? I mean if it wasn't for people pointing that shit out MS would have never improved and wouldn't be continuing to improve. PC, Nintendo, and Sony fans don't look at Xb1 hardcore fans as "wrong" because ps4 is winning, it's because 90% of the time they are proven wrong. Then they have a certain arrogance about them where they not only ignore that they were mistaken and try to learn from it but end up trying to twist things so that they were still somehow right, after of course demonizing those that point out their mistake. I mean if fanbases were people at this point Xbox would be donald trump. Meanwhile those in the Sony, Nintendo, and PC camps continue to be optimistic and regularly point out good things about MS. Like the fact they got rid of kinect, that was great. Their new version of backwards compatibility, fantastic. The fact that we'll be able to play any Xb1 game on a windows 10 pc. Amazing news which all camps for the most part have shown appreciation for. Meanwhile with the exception of maybe 1-2 people the Xbox camp can only ever insult, downplay, and deny. "ps4 has no games, indies aren't games they don't count" "Nintendo is doomed, they are trash kid games with no 3rd party support" "PC are over priced elitists, Xbox is made for games, steam machine is going to fail hard". There isn't an imbalance, Xbox hardcore fans bring it on themselves every single time.

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ReimTime said:
Nicklesbe said:
walsufnir said:


I just want to make fun, seriously. The wars are in full engage mode everywhere. Terms like "salty" "eat crow soon!", all this stuff when people are happy that others are angry. We are talking about games here and that is, in the end, something we do in our spare time to have fun.

Now it's happening that PS4 is winning and will continue to do so which makes people think they also "win" and have a certain attitude against other users who chose the "wrong" console for being also "wrong" by default, no matter what they say. Are there still good and bad users on both sides? Definitely! But we have to see that there is a certain inbalance in discussions on GAF and here.

Let's take the 1080p-threads as of late. These threads are full of people talking about 1080pr and all the stuff but almost no one from the "other" side is able to say "good for xbone. I am glad they get better resolution in the end". No, of course not. We see comments about how bad MS is, how desperate they are, how weak the hardware is and these posts are way more in a thread where most people don't even own the console where the game is going to be released. And I guess this side can easily cope with a post like mine ;)

Have you considered that maybe the reason there are so many comments about how bad MS is, is legitimately because MS is doing something bad? I mean if it wasn't for people pointing that shit out MS would have never improved and wouldn't be continuing to improve. PC, Nintendo, and Sony fans don't look at Xb1 hardcore fans as "wrong" because ps4 is winning, it's because 90% of the time they are proven wrong. Then they have a certain arrogance about them where they not only ignore that they were mistaken and try to learn from it but end up trying to twist things so that they were still somehow right, after of course demonizing those that point out their mistake. I mean if fanbases were people at this point Xbox would be donald trump. Meanwhile those in the Sony, Nintendo, and PC camps continue to be optimistic and regularly point out good things about MS. Like the fact they got rid of kinect, that was great. Their new version of backwards compatibility, fantastic. The fact that we'll be able to play any Xb1 game on a windows 10 pc. Amazing news which all camps for the most part have shown appreciation for. Meanwhile with the exception of maybe 1-2 people the Xbox camp can only ever insult, downplay, and deny. "ps4 has no games, indies aren't games they don't count" "Nintendo is doomed, they are trash kid games with no 3rd party support" "PC are over priced elitists, Xbox is made for games, steam machine is going to fail hard". There isn't an imbalance, Xbox hardcore fans bring it on themselves every single time.

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Not surprised. Tomb Raider wasn't exactly in the same position as Bayonetta 2. It will get made whether Microsoft steps in or not, and I had the feeling they paid for timed exclusivity the moment this title was announced as "Exclusive".



I honestly wonder how many people will bother getting it on PS4? These days, games move on very quickly and it's always about having the newest thing. 12 months after the game first comes out, the reviews come out, the hype dies down, marketing budget reduced etc... how many people are really going to care?

I can imagine fall 2016 will be bigger than fall 2015 in terms of games simply due to more people owning consoles and publishers wanting to make more money. Especially with PS4, I can see the fall 2016 lineup overshadowing TR to the point that people wont care anyway.

In my opinion, all this debate is kind of pointless. Half the people in here cheering for it being a 1 year exclusive, so what? You will be playing the same game on XB1/XB360 regardless of it being on PS4 or not. On the other side, half the people saying 'but I can play it in a year', will you? I doubt you will care by then. Everyone on XB1, XB360 and PC would have played the game to death already and won't bother talking much about it so the hype will be with PS4 only for a game that's 1 year old and has reduced marking behind it. Reminds me a bit like Mass Effect 1 (although that was obviously longer exclusivity).



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Nicklesbe said:
walsufnir said:


I just want to make fun, seriously. The wars are in full engage mode everywhere. Terms like "salty" "eat crow soon!", all this stuff when people are happy that others are angry. We are talking about games here and that is, in the end, something we do in our spare time to have fun.

Now it's happening that PS4 is winning and will continue to do so which makes people think they also "win" and have a certain attitude against other users who chose the "wrong" console for being also "wrong" by default, no matter what they say. Are there still good and bad users on both sides? Definitely! But we have to see that there is a certain inbalance in discussions on GAF and here.

Let's take the 1080p-threads as of late. These threads are full of people talking about 1080pr and all the stuff but almost no one from the "other" side is able to say "good for xbone. I am glad they get better resolution in the end". No, of course not. We see comments about how bad MS is, how desperate they are, how weak the hardware is and these posts are way more in a thread where most people don't even own the console where the game is going to be released. And I guess this side can easily cope with a post like mine ;)

Have you considered that maybe the reason there are so many comments about how bad MS is, is legitimately because MS is doing something bad? I mean if it wasn't for people pointing that shit out MS would have never improved and wouldn't be continuing to improve. PC, Nintendo, and Sony fans don't look at Xb1 hardcore fans as "wrong" because ps4 is winning, it's because 90% of the time they are proven wrong. Then they have a certain arrogance about them where they not only ignore that they were mistaken and try to learn from it but end up trying to twist things so that they were still somehow right, after of course demonizing those that point out their mistake. I mean if fanbases were people at this point Xbox would be donald trump. Meanwhile those in the Sony, Nintendo, and PC camps continue to be optimistic and regularly point out good things about MS. Like the fact they got rid of kinect, that was great. Their new version of backwards compatibility, fantastic. The fact that we'll be able to play any Xb1 game on a windows 10 pc. Amazing news which all camps for the most part have shown appreciation for. Meanwhile with the exception of maybe 1-2 people the Xbox camp can only ever insult, downplay, and deny. "ps4 has no games, indies aren't games they don't count" "Nintendo is doomed, they are trash kid games with no 3rd party support" "PC are over priced elitists, Xbox is made for games, steam machine is going to fail hard". There isn't an imbalance, Xbox hardcore fans bring it on themselves every single time.


90% lol. This nonsense was funny I'll give you that. 



TheSting said:


90% lol. This nonsense was funny I'll give you that. 

They have been mostly wrong this entire gen, and again I am talking about the hardcore fans here. I mean giving em that 10% is frankly charitable considering all the assumptions and eventual necrobumps disproving those assumptions since before the gen was even released. it wouldn't be so bad if it was handled better but it's always the same, again with the exception of a handful of people. I mean at the end of the day we are all people and fallible and wrong from time to time. Hell I've been wrong and fooled numerous times this week alone. However everyone isn't so prideful and shameless about it, admiit and learn from it.



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