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Do you agree with the results.

Yes. I feel sorry for Goku. 101 100.00%
 
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burninmylight said:
Nintyfan90 said:
So its safe to say both pull shit out their arse to win battles.


Every comic and shounen hero whose run last more than a few episodes/chapters does. You can't have dozens or hundreds of victories over your enemies just by merely hitting a little harder each time. That would be boring.

and yet here we are with superman and goku which is exactly what they've been doing

superman went from stronger than a locamotive to bench pressing planets over the decades

goku went from power level 130somthing to 1000,000,000,000,000......... or OVER 9,0000! from dragonball to dragonball z

so yeah, they just hit a little harder every new story line or arc. 



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ils411 said:
JinxRake said:
We are still on about this?
New players have joined?!

Oh happy day!

Why are we ignoring the fact that Superman has become, over time, repeatedly immune to kryptonite?

Why are we ignoring the fact that Superman vs. Batman or Lex Luthor exists solely on the idea of God vs. Man? Superman's greatest enemy is human because having another god fight him would be rather redundant as a story.
THAT is why DBZ, as opposed to DB, is a monumental piece of SHIT story wise.

Why are we ignoring the fact that Superman is NOT, as some would believe, invincible or completely invulnerable? Fact of the matter is that Superman is a tank, but he has OTHER weaknesses except kryptonite: magic, reality altering, human feelings etc. He is nigh invincible strength wise or in terms of durability - all of which are Goku's sole means of comparison to the God Superman -.

Why are we ignoring the fact that Goku's main mean of wining any battle is pulling stuff out of his arse or lucky saves by friends...when he doesn't forfeit altogether?
Don't believe me?
Raditz? Piccolo came around to help out.
Vegeta? Yajirobi with a tail cut, Krilling and Gohan bouncing the Spirit Bomb around.
Frieza? Krillin getting killed and power spike out of his arse in the form of going SSJ.
Cell? Gave up. Power spike out of his arse by Gohan.
Majin Vegeta? No winner.
Majin Buu? BWAHAHAHAHA! He screamed for half an episode and pulled another bullshit transformation out of his arse...and ended up DOING NOTHING to the pink fecker.
Kid Buu? Vegeta getting bounced around while Goku charged his Spirit Bomb, Mr. Satan calling for help to the people of Earth, and people on Namek wishing for Goku's energy to be restored.

So why is everyone banging on about Superman pulling stuff out of his arse to end fight when that is the only freaking way Goku ever fights? Super secret technique number Naruto!

you do know that superman also pulls craptastic powers out of his arse too.

"superman is suseptible to magic" -> tanks magic attack that should kill him

"kryptonite is deadly to superman" -> endures kryptonite radiation and still kicks ass

"x enemy is a superbe figher and will beat superman due to skill" -> trained by batman = next best thing + hundreds of years of war inplace of dc thor coz...well... yeah .. give supes some legit experience 

the list goes on and on and on... 

these two are meant to fight as both pull crap out of their arseholes. 

Why do you sound like you're trying to contradict something out of my post? 

 

Edit:

You know, this is why I prefer Luffy to Goku. As a very long term deddicated DB fan, it came as a bit of a shock when I had to admit to myself that One Piece is the superior anime, and Luffy the superior main character. He wins and loses based on his own abilities most of the times, no bullshit added, no lucky saves, no magic beans, no friends pulling him out of the fire and then giving credit to him. 

Luffy vs Crocodile: 1-2, but damn he owned that last fight. 

Luffy vs Lucci: all out brawl, no bullshit, no friends deflecting any punches, no nothing. Sure, he's empowered by their cheering, but nobody gives him an actual hand.

 

So it's gotten weird for me why people are so in love with Goku as some supreme god of fighting. He rarely wins fights. Since DB he's learned just a few new tricks, and the more he trains, the more he stays the same. His main method of fighting is "Move fast, punch stuff, throw energy ball". For the greatest fighter ever that needs to be put up against Superman...Goku is simply boring. 



ils411 said:
Porcupine_I said:

Goku playing fair and square is the point of this post. He will be the moral winner by not exploiting Supermans glaring weaknesses, even if he loses the battle.

The other thing is that Goku has no problem with killing enemies, while Superman does. Goku will always come out alive in the fight, while Superman may not. 

i have to agree with your logic. 

but winning the moral ground is piss poor consolation to loosing. 

True, but i doubt he would lose. Goku loves fighting. As long as he is alive he will keep fighting and Superman won't kill him. Either Superman gives in eventually or Goku kills him. It also will depend a lot on what they are fighting about. They could just get bored after a while and call it a draw.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

ils411 said:
The_Sony_Girl1 said:

No. But we can use physics to calculate this Black Hole. It was multi-solar system.

lets keep real life physics out of this ok?

goku in normal form is a planet buster. in ssj form he multiplies that power by 50, in ssj2 he again multiplies his power by... hahaha no idea lol

goku does have the power to knock superman for a loop. 

Superman in normal form is a casual solar system buster.



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Porcupine_I said:
ils411 said:

i have to agree with your logic. 

but winning the moral ground is piss poor consolation to loosing. 

True, but i doubt he would lose. Goku loves fighting. As long as he is alive he will keep fighting and Superman won't kill him. Either Superman gives in eventually or Goku kills him. It also will depend a lot on what they are fighting about. They could just get bored after a while and call it a draw.

Thia would be assuming that neither would be able to kill the other one until this becomes the solution. They are not equal in fighting ability, Superman is better. Speed, strength, and intelligence are all in favor of Superman, I doubt Goku could survive.



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bigtakilla said:
Porcupine_I said:

True, but i doubt he would lose. Goku loves fighting. As long as he is alive he will keep fighting and Superman won't kill him. Either Superman gives in eventually or Goku kills him. It also will depend a lot on what they are fighting about. They could just get bored after a while and call it a draw.

Thia would be assuming that neither would be able to kill the other one until this becomes the solution. They are not equal in fighting ability, Superman is better. Speed, strength, and intelligence are all in favor of Superman, I doubt Goku could survive.

There is no conceivable reason that I can think of for Superman to not be able to just lobotomize Goku through his eyes, anytime he wants to. He doesn't need ten minutes to charge up his laser vision, he just fires it withing range.

It's amusing how DBZ fans really believe Goku could survive Superman. 

 

""People always say things like that. 'I designed this weapon to hurt even you!' And they always miss the point. The design focuses on the wrong goal. Yes, I can be hurt. It's actually not that difficult. So the hard part isn't hurting me. The hard part is surviving me."



JinxRake said:
bigtakilla said:

Thia would be assuming that neither would be able to kill the other one until this becomes the solution. They are not equal in fighting ability, Superman is better. Speed, strength, and intelligence are all in favor of Superman, I doubt Goku could survive.

There is no conceivable reason that I can think of for Superman to not be able to just lobotomize Goku through his eyes, anytime he wants to. He doesn't need ten minutes to charge up his laser vision, he just fires it withing range.

It's amusing how DBZ fans really believe Goku could survive Superman. 

 

""People always say things like that. 'I designed this weapon to hurt even you!' And they always miss the point. The design focuses on the wrong goal. Yes, I can be hurt. It's actually not that difficult. So the hard part isn't hurting me. The hard part is surviving me."

fitting quote.



bigtakilla said:
Porcupine_I said:

True, but i doubt he would lose. Goku loves fighting. As long as he is alive he will keep fighting and Superman won't kill him. Either Superman gives in eventually or Goku kills him. It also will depend a lot on what they are fighting about. They could just get bored after a while and call it a draw.

Thia would be assuming that neither would be able to kill the other one until this becomes the solution. They are not equal in fighting ability, Superman is better. Speed, strength, and intelligence are all in favor of Superman, I doubt Goku could survive.

But that's the thing. EVERYONE survives superman.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Porcupine_I said:
bigtakilla said:

Thia would be assuming that neither would be able to kill the other one until this becomes the solution. They are not equal in fighting ability, Superman is better. Speed, strength, and intelligence are all in favor of Superman, I doubt Goku could survive.

But that's the thing. EVERYONE survives superman.

Because Superman allows them to live.



Porcupine_I said:
bigtakilla said:

Thia would be assuming that neither would be able to kill the other one until this becomes the solution. They are not equal in fighting ability, Superman is better. Speed, strength, and intelligence are all in favor of Superman, I doubt Goku could survive.

But that's the thing. EVERYONE survives superman.

well, yeah. superman's a wuss.