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Do you agree with the results.

Yes. I feel sorry for Goku. 101 100.00%
 
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XanderXT said:
The_Sony_Girl1 said:

You're in the DBZ fanboys vs hard facts thread.

Wow. That was one sick burn.

Heh, thanks.



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d21lewis said:
bigtakilla said:

It might frighten him to know the fact that Superman Prime is vastly stronger than AS Superman then. I was just giving a few feats that he has accomplished in his comics, as opposed to Goku who hasn't done a fraction of what Superman is capable of.

I'm actually a huge DC (and comics in general) fan--one of the biggest you'll find-- and I agree with the results. I just try to be unbiased in comparisons.  I want the picture painted clearly so there's no room to nitpick.


Absolutely no such thing in such a "debate". 



XanderXT said:
The_Sony_Girl1 said:

You're in the DBZ fanboys vs hard facts thread.

Wow. That was one sick burn.


More like DBZ fanboys who need to know more vs inconsistent facts from arrogant Superman fansboys vs some guys who are in the middle thread lol

The fight was fair because most of us know Superman is an almighty being. Actually, I'm not a comic fan, but from what I know is that Superman can't be beaten. However, I know these comics are so inconsistent because they keep adding stuff that makes no sense. One of the guys here gave an example about Wolverine, he said something like this "he needed days to recover from one serious wound in one comic, but then in another comic he can recover with one finger?" Guys like Lewis, who I believe he knows Superman would win,  at least are nice and sees that are inconsistencies. Well, at least some other guys  including dbz fans from the early posts said this and know that Superman would win.

Anyway, being OP is terrible IMO. Now, this may sound IGNorant from my part, but what kind of story can you make? Superman had to be nerfed at least in the movies from my knowledge in order to make it interesting. I enjoyed SmallVille 10 years ago because of that although he was just a young boy. In DBZ, all non-saiyan characters became useless by the Frieza Saga so no more interesting fights like in DB...

At least what I know from Superman, he would never kill someone nor destroy the planet to someone who said he wants a fair match...and Goku wouldn't kill either or have a fight against a stronger OP.

So yeah, even when we know Superman will always win, this battle and the way they changed their personalities was wrong/dumb in so many ways.



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XanderXT said:
ofrm1 said:
Of course Superman will win. He was written to win every fight which makes him a terrible character. There is an actual attempt at consistency in Dragonball, and an attempt to make the characters believable, so of course he's going to lose.

Consistency in Dragon Ball? Yeah right. They go from pushing mountains apart to struggling to life 40 tons. I mean Master Chief can lift 66 tons! That's way stronger! And Superman has lost. It's just rare.


I said that there's an attempt at consistency. The video notes that Superman losses were before he gained all his powers. That said, Goku is written to be the underdog in virtually every major match and loses three.

Alot of people attempt to give the show crap for its lack of consistency considering that the power levels jump all over the place. I actually think they do a decent job of keeping things level considering the sheer amount of power that these people are attaining. With Superman, they're not even trying.



Well, since this doesn't come from the real creators, I don't take this video seriously.



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Angelv577 said:
Well, since this doesn't come from the real creators, I don't take this video seriously.

Superman still has superior feats though.



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Goku would laugh in the face of the strongest Superman character.



NatureOfLogic said:
Goku would laugh in the face of the strongest Superman character.

Why? Has he ever sneezed a solar system into destruction? No? Superman has.



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JinxRake said:
AG80 said:

That's weird. Frieza once threw an entire mountain at Goku in his base form and he is able to hold it on his palms.

And physical power cannot be equated with ki energy.

It's not really weird actually. DBZ is horribly inconsistent in regards to a lot of character abilities and how a lot of things should work. At one point a Kamehameha doesn't do crap to Piccolo in DB, at another it completely disintegrates Cell. 

Biggest bull in the show is HOW Ki actually works or what it actually is. It's a terrible plot device that does EVERYTHING the creator wants it to and can be generated in higher quantities...by God knows what methods. 

 

Thing is that I doubt Toriyama considered any physics ideas while writing DB. It's all the better for it, but very strange at times as well. 

 

Edit: In the previous page of the manga Goku states that if he would be tied down with 10t on each limb, he wouldn't be able to move at all. So it's not about ki energy there. 

Oh come on, Kamehameha's power depends on the ki of its user, as does every energy beam and every physical attack in the show. Goku's ki energy is billions of times stronger when he's fighting against Cell than when he's fighting against Piccolo. Ki doesn't do everything, its used pretty judiciously by Toiyami. There are a few inconsistencies but they usually are used as fillers.

Its atleast way more consistant than Superman, on one hand you have Silver Age Superman, on the other, he's once defeated by Batman.



What did you expect? Superman can only be beaten with kryptonite, magic, or radiation. They already explained in their previous Death Battle in pure statistics how much stronger he is.