Eeehhhnnn, IF Superman were given a handicap- by which I mean, if he knew everything there was to know about Doctor Manhattan, and Doctor Manhattan knew nothing about Superman- then he might be able to find a way to win, even if that way consists of 'Use tachyons to fiddle with his time sense, then send him to the Phantom Zone.' (And we're going with the assumption that Doctor Manhattan wouldn't be capable of finding a way out of that realm/that the particles that he is composed of (or will that binds them) CAN be zapped there)

If Doctor Manhattan and Superman both knew all there was to know about each other, got to give it to Doctor Manhattan; teleport Superman into the middle of a red sun. Boom. Now, Superman HAS been able to pull through getting knocked through a red sun (in a battle with Superboy Prime,) but even if he DID get out of it without losing all his powers and being incinerated, Manhattan could just do it again and again til he can't get out. =P The only weaknesses Manhattan himself possesses have to do with slowing him down/ tricking him, as nobody's actually been able to slow him down for longer than a few minutes, let alone beat him outright.

If they BOTH went in blind, unaware of the others' abilities or weaknesses beforehand, I would either have to call it a stalemate, or a win for Manhattan, depending on the circumstances. First, Superman's usual go-to strategy (punch it really, really hard) isn't likely to work. Manhattan's brought himself back from disintegration, (even though an intrinsic field is fictional, it's usually thought to represent the various forces that holds matter together) so I don't see any level of strength or heat vision actually taking him down for good. Heck, Manhattan can exist as simultaneous copies sharing one consciousness, so even if he were vulnerable to harm, he could just keep splitting off copies.

Second, as he explained it in the film at least (can't remember if the comic syncs up) he is able to see his own personal timeline; any battle with Superman would fall under that perception. The only way to block it would be the same way it was done in the story, but that would require Superman having foreknowledge of Manhattan, which he wouldn't in this scenario. So, just like that, Manhattan's seen every move Superman would make against him, and presumably could change whatever outcome might normally occur. (At least, he seems to think he can, as despite supposed evidence of a nuclear war he was still working to try and develop the power source that would prevent it. Whether he CAN change the future, especially given he's described it more as there being no future, past or present, who knows.) Still, as he also said, he isn't omniscient, so even if he saw every move Superman would make in a fight, he wouldn't automatically know about Superman's weaknesses unless some idiot yelled out 'SUPERMAN TRY TO MAKE SURE HE DOESN"T LEARN ABOUT KRYPTONITE!"

Which brings us down to raw power, i.e. which can output the most 'oomph' which is the reason for the possible tie. The problem there is I'm not sure how Manhattan's more destructive abilities WORK. Superman can legitimately take a ridiculous amount of punishment, and so raw 'boom' might not be enough to beat him, or kill him; keeping in mind that Manhattan, as far as I know, mostly used his power on squishy humans (and a tank,) neither of which would be a good indicator as to his limits. And it's entirely possible that Manhattan HAS no real limits in terms of how much power he can put out, (in which case he could teleport Superman in the middle of nowhere space, and hit him with a gigantic death boom,) but it's pretty hard to say. Because of that uncertainty, I'd go with the tie, since even if Manhattan doesn't have enough raw power to beat Superman, Superman pretty much can't touch what Manhattan is, let alone hurt him. =P

As a side note, if Manhattan can, using his own abilities, reproduce the same intrinsic field subtraction, (which presumably causes all the atoms in a structure to lose cohesion) that initially killed him, then Superman would probably be no more resistant to it than anyone else. Hooooowever, while being killed by the instrinsic field subtrator is no GUARANTEE of developing superpowers- Manhattan being a special case- there's still an outside chance Superman (though, honestly, more likely Batman) could pull it off.

Goku would fuck both of them up.












































trollololol

Whoever wins should fight the winner of Aids vs Rabies

This! Thank you for explaining it for me!

Squirrel Girl takes them both down instantly... off screen of course, anything else would be uncivilized.

Superman: Doomed.

Thank you for showing my point as to why superman is such a craptastic pice of crap character.

Warping space-time by rubbing his hands so fast and usting static electricity? hahaha! that is so rich..

I take back my previous statment of batman wining coz of his anti dr. manhattan spray

superman craptastic character>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adam west batman... and adam west batman has a spray for everything, even sharks hahahaha

dood, dont even go there... 

Aw, you're no fun...

1) I like the way you want to use that which is not known about the powers of Doctor Manhattan only against him, when they could also be used in his favor.

2) Batman escaped a Black Hole, never it says that he survived a Singularity, but escaped from it. He would become toothpaste of subatomic particles if he would be swallowed by a Black Hole.

There is no precedent of Superman surviving being torn apart into molecular or atomic level and surviving and retaining his identity. While on the other hand there is a precedent for Doctor Manhattan when he retained consciousness and powers even when turned into pieces.

Doctor Manhattan will simply do this to Superman and bye bye Superman:

3) If you are going to give Superman previous knowledge of his enemy's weaknesses, the same should be allowed for Doctor Mahattan.

4) Doctor Mahattan can manipulate matter. Like mornelithe said:

Doctor Manhattan could surround himself, or convert the air around Superman into kryptonite in any moment. Kryptonite is matter and Dr can manipulate and convert it at will. He could even turn his body into kryptonite and make Superman pay for even touching him.

5) You try to use the fact that a brilliant human like Ozymandias used a technique to try and nullify one of Dr. Manhattan's powers and make his plan work (just to nullity one of his powers, Ozumandias ran like a little bitch when Doctor Manhattan faced him later face to face), but then you don't mention the fact that someone as powerful as Superman was DEFEATED by a simple human: Batman who used different techniques to nullify Superman's powers using "matter" that Doctor Manhattan could easily manipulates at will. We are not talking about outsmarting here, we are talking about Superman having been defeated by a human.

Batman who even got his ass kicked by Spawn:

"Knock it off, Batman. I am not in the mood.. And I don't have the time." lol

Doctor Manhatta wins.

Nope.

Doctor Mahattan is an incredible character made for a very smart graphic novel. Watchmen is not about the lives of it's characters. The superheroes lives in Watchmen are in a second place in comparison to the themes that are brought up in the story that take the main stage.

Watchmen is a story about impotence, an impotence that even a powerful character like Doctor Manhattan find himself unable to help humanity survive itself because it is in their nature to kill each other.

Doctor Mahattan is an interesting character that struggles with his apathy towards the human race as he becomes able to look at things from a higher perspective where he sees the beauty even in unanimated matter and still tries to adhere to his humanity, only to find out that in order to save humanity he needs to allow millions of humans to die.