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Though I don't support blanket "ban all guns" nonsense, there is a flaw in the above argument: don't ban all guns. Ban all lethal bullets. Most knives have a primary purpose that isn't killing. Same cannot be said for lethal ammo.

Though, again, I don't support total gun (or ammo) bans, given that such a thing is unrealistic and even places people like the cite like western europe/scandinavian countries/australia still allow for plenty of gun ownership. I'm just curious over what you'd say.



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SpokenTruth said:
o_O.Q said:

it just amazes me that people do not understand the consequences of leaving all of the responsiblity for their wellbeing in the hands of other flawed human beings


You mean government?


not necessarily

although issues like the war on terrorism, the war on drugs ( all of the money invested to stopping it yet its more widespread than ever because it was never intended to be successful but the problem was purposefully propagated to bleed tax payers of their money ), where the financial system is heading etc should be raising eyebrows and yet they are not

why? because people have come to trust and rely on government ( a daddy ) too much to question certain things, but anyway what i was talking about extends beyond that



nuckles87 said:
Though I don't support blanket "ban all guns" nonsense, there is a flaw in the above argument: don't ban all guns. Ban all lethal bullets. Most knives have a primary purpose that isn't killing. Same cannot be said for lethal ammo.

Though, again, I don't support total gun (or ammo) bans, given that such a thing is unrealistic and even places people like the cite like western europe/scandinavian countries/australia still allow for plenty of gun ownership. I'm just curious over what you'd say.

yeah, there are a lot of guns in europe, but we are better people... the highest assault gun density can be found in swiss.

their soldiers are allowed to take their sig 550 home, some with grenade launcher, but they dont run around killing people.



Well, yeah, they don't run around killing people because the people who would do that typically don't get guns. Switzerland (as well as many other European countries with high gun ownership rates) conscripts most of its men into the military, and runs backgrounds on everyone before they can purchase most fire arms. People can be disqualified from owning weapons if they fail a psychiatric evaluation, or have a criminal record.



nuckles87 said:

People can be disqualified from owning weapons if they fail a psychiatric evaluation, or have a criminal record.

This is true for the majority of the U.S as well. If you have a felony or a history of mental incarceration you will not be eligible for a firearm purchase that is subjected to a background check. Now there are ways to purchase weapons without background checks. But it is impossible to force everyone who sells guns to have to do background checks (black market would exist if it were a enforced law.)