By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Microsoft Discussion - ROTR's Lara Croft is stunningly beautiful and detailed!!!

Tagged games:

Love a bigger world to explore and even more puzzles. Those are two of the bigger things that set the reboot apart from Uncharted.



Around the Network
Machiavellian said:
SvennoJ said:

I'm far from terrible at the game, and I love getting her killed over and over. What else is there to do :p I do hope there are less of those disguised qte sequences like navigating down the rapids. That kind of repeat until you get the sequence right gameplay sucks, I can kill her just fine by myself.  I'm glad they're making the tombs bigger, yet it's still not TOMB raider. Tombs should be the main part of the game, not a side activity to pass the time in between killing people.

Actually you have no clue if the Tombs are the main part of this game.  A few developers have mentioned that now they have gotten the orgin part out of the way that this game will have a more Raiders focus on the tombs.  I believe you are developing an opinion without actually playing or even reading about the actual game.

True, but I don't have a lot of faith in the developers after the reboot.
- Bigger tombs to explore with multiple puzzle solving moments
That's what I read, multiple puzzle solving 'moments' That does not sound like the tombs are the main part of this game.



FoxMan250 said:

Yeah, pretty much this - I loved torturing her in Reboot, I don't see her as Lara at all, so I had no connection to her.

Reboot was disgrace for a game called Tomb Raider, unfortunatelly , it seems that  most people have absolutely zero clue who Lara Croft was in original games, how she became what she was (clue: she was trained since she was a kid, she didn't need some 'emotional' C-rate Hollywood shit for that) and what are staples of TR games.

It's not that ppl don't have a clue, it's that they relatively enjoyed the new game and the changes made.  The controls in the old TR games were pretty bad and I welcome that change in gameplay.  I like that she wasn't trained and that she slowly becomes a bad ass as the game progresses.  That way you gain skills as the game goes on instead of starting off with the full aresenal, and it also allows the player to get to know Lara on a personal level and grow with her as she grows.  Those kind of small changes can really help a player relate to a character better.  

Yet it's not Tombraider. The controls in the old TR games fit the gameplay perfectly. It was about puzzle solving and precision acrobatics to navigate the environment. Count out the steps needed backwards to perform the right sequence of jumps, after you figure out where you can get to.  The new games are simply flicking the stick in the right direction and the game will do it for you. I'm not saying the old game were perfect, yet it's swung so far in the other direction that the platforming and path finding challenge is completely gone.

The background of the old games was a lot more interesting than what they dumbed it down to. Slowly becomes a bad ass? She's an experienced full psychotic serial killer right from her first kill. You have to kill more people in the reboot than in the classic TR games combined, it becomes a comedy after a while. Sorry I could not relate to the character at all. FC3 did a much better job at the exact same thing while not being serious. It had bigger tombs to explore too...

I had high hopes for a reboot after Tombraider Anniversary. Great balance between old and new. Yet instead it turned into a cross between Far cry 3 and Uncharted.



Reading some of these comments is like seeing someone tell George Lucas that he doesn't know what Star Wars is.

We may or may not like the direction the series has taken (personally, I love it!) but we can't say what is our isn't Tomb Raider. I've owned every single game in the franchise except the paper games and the last Arcade game and I like this current iteration of Tomb Raider.

Then again, I also owned every Resident Evil and I'm glad it changed direction, too....



d21lewis said:
Reading some of these comments is like seeing someone tell George Lucas that he doesn't know what Star Wars is.

We may or may not like the direction the series has taken (personally, I love it!) but we can't say what is our isn't Tomb Raider. I've owned every single game in the franchise except the paper games and the last Arcade game and I like this current iteration of Tomb Raider.

Then again, I also owned every Resident Evil and I'm glad it changed direction, too....

I don't understand your first sentence. Core Design were the original developers of the games, not Crystal Dynamics.



Around the Network
VGPolyglot said:
d21lewis said:
Reading some of these comments is like seeing someone tell George Lucas that he doesn't know what Star Wars is.

We may or may not like the direction the series has taken (personally, I love it!) but we can't say what is our isn't Tomb Raider. I've owned every single game in the franchise except the paper games and the last Arcade game and I like this current iteration of Tomb Raider.

Then again, I also owned every Resident Evil and I'm glad it changed direction, too....

I don't understand your first sentence. Core Design were the original developers of the games, not Crystal Dynamics.

True. But they were with Eidos.  Core's direction led to the series continual decline and eventual got they booted n favor of Crystal Dynamics.  Remember Angel of Darkness?

My point was that we fans seem to think we know better than the game's makers.  The franchise had to change.  We can all have our opinions and that's cool but by TR III, the franchise was already failing critically and sales continually fell after TLR ( I think)



d21lewis said:
Reading some of these comments is like seeing someone tell George Lucas that he doesn't know what Star Wars is.

We may or may not like the direction the series has taken (personally, I love it!) but we can't say what is our isn't Tomb Raider. I've owned every single game in the franchise except the paper games and the last Arcade game and I like this current iteration of Tomb Raider.

Then again, I also owned every Resident Evil and I'm glad it changed direction, too....


As VGPolyglot said, Core created TR, not CD. And 9 games prior to Reboot define what TR is...even though there were Core vs CD fans' arguments, at least 3 CD games prior to Reboot were mostly true to the basic principles of TR.

Reboot has nothing to do with TR, but a name. If they went with some other name and different character (let's say 'Psycho Killer' starring Moana Daft), I wouldn't give a damn, but TR and Lara Croft names were just (ab)used due to their popularity.



HoloDust said:
d21lewis said:
Reading some of these comments is like seeing someone tell George Lucas that he doesn't know what Star Wars is.

We may or may not like the direction the series has taken (personally, I love it!) but we can't say what is our isn't Tomb Raider. I've owned every single game in the franchise except the paper games and the last Arcade game and I like this current iteration of Tomb Raider.

Then again, I also owned every Resident Evil and I'm glad it changed direction, too....


As VGPolyglot said, Core created TR, not CD. And 9 games prior to Reboot define what TR is...even though there were Core vs CD fans' arguments, at least 3 CD games prior to Reboot were mostly true to the basic principles of TR.

Reboot has nothing to do with TR, but a name. If they went with some other name and different character (let's say 'Psycho Killer' starring Moana Daft), I wouldn't give a damn, but TR and Lara Croft names were just (ab)used due to their popularity.


Fair enough. Hopefully the new TR is more in line with what you think the franchise should be.  I tolerated the games before CD but after TR Legend, I feel in love with the franchise. I guess they can't please everybody.



Looks great, but I'm still a lot more impressed with ND's work on the new character models in Uncharted 4. She doesn't look like a person who survived the events of the first game. She still looks like a hot bombshell college student who has to experience anything, i.e. baby smooth skin, porcelain appearance, no scars, etc.



0331 Happiness is a belt-fed weapon

DialgaMarine said:
Looks great, but I'm still a lot more impressed with ND's work on the new character models in Uncharted 4. She doesn't look like a person who survived the events of the first game. She still looks like a hot bombshell college student who has to experience anything, i.e. baby smooth skin, porcelain appearance, no scars, etc.


But she probably stinks, though.....