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97alexk on 11 July 2015
VGPolyglot said:
Well, in terms of profitability the XBox is the biggest console failure ever, but Halo did really help it sell more than the GameCube.


what about virtual boy, maybe thats not a console though



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PotentHerbs on 11 July 2015

Some FPS game.



zorg1000 on 11 July 2015
chakkra said:
Hynad said:
Halo.

There's really nothing more to it.

Well, according to VGC Halo 2 sold around 8.49 millions, which means at least 16 million Xbox users didnt buy the console because of it. So there has to be something  more to it.

It is also worth noting that the XBox only had two games above the 4 millions mark, whereas the GC had four.  Also, Super Smash Bros. Melee is not that far behind Halo 2 (and actually it sold better than Halo 1).

So like I said, theres gotta be something more to it.

Not really, Xbox beat GameCube by about 3 million so it's very possible that without Halo, Xbox would have lost to GameCube.



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jlmurph2 on 11 July 2015
chakkra said:
Hynad said:
Halo.

There's really nothing more to it.

Well, according to VGC Halo 2 sold around 8.49 millions, which means at least 16 million Xbox users didnt buy the console because of it. So there has to be something  more to it.

It is also worth noting that the XBox only had two games above the 4 millions mark, whereas the GC had four.  Also, Super Smash Bros. Melee is not that far behind Halo 2 (and actually it sold better than Halo 1).

So like I said, theres gotta be something more to it.

That's not how it works. Since you're not counting people who got the game used.



Miyamotoo on 11 July 2015
bonzobanana said:
Xbox was hugely more powerful than Gamecube and was capable of games that neither the ps2 and Gamecube could do for various technical reasons.

Most multiformat games were superior on xbox to ps2 and gamecube. Sometimes a night and day difference. The gflops performance of the xbox gpu was something like 20-25 where as the gamecube was 8 gflops. Not only that but it had a more advanced feature set and had 32bit colour output for transparencies etc. It trounces the wii on almost every level let alone its own generation.

Great looking games on xbox are far cry, conker, Halo series of course. Ambitious games not possible on ps2 or gamecube would be games like Half Life 2.

Some games were 720p on original xbox like soul caliber 2 which were 480i/p on ps2 and gamecube.

Don't get me wrong though I was a huge fan of gamecube but the xbox delivered a technical performance level well beyond ps2 and gamecube for many games. The build in hard drive hugely supplemented the memory and optical storage to allow fast streaming of data, something not possible on ps2 or gamecube. The xbox had 64MB of shared memory but the ps2 only had 32MB with 4MB for video and the gamecube had 24MB of main memory and 3MB of video. The gamecube also had 16MB of slow memory which was used to cache the optical drive so meant the optical drive speed of gamecube was blisteringly fast but that memory wasn't available as main memory in the same way.

A typical gamecube game vs the xbox version would be cut down or removed video in the gamecube version due to lack of storage, missing graphic data and assets in game because of limited memory and simplified 2 channel sound due to not having the true 5.1 sound output of the original xbox.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDtKLmiGwj0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5suGMyqb-gY

The xbox was a hideous lump of a console but capable of some truly stunning games for its time but then it was really just a pc pretending to be a games console.

 

And PS2 was weaker than GC and Xbox and was sold 7x better. So power isn't really good reason why Xbox outsell GC.



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Jumpin on 11 July 2015

GameCube was made for kids, and looked like a toy.



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MikeRox on 11 July 2015

Halo and Xbox Live.



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Ryng on 11 July 2015
Miyamotoo said:

And PS2 was weaker than GC and Xbox and was sold 7x better. So power isn't really isn't good reason why Xbox outsell GC.

This.

I can't believe how did the PS2 sold so better than GC and XBOX. :-|



Ruler on 11 July 2015

near the end it got more multiplats and online support



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Ryng on 11 July 2015
Guitarguy said:
Halo was probably the last killer ap launch title ever released and it deserved its success. The Gamecube's launch was poor. Everyone wanted Super Mario 3D GCN but instead we got Luigi's Mansion. That coupled with aggressive marketing(especially in the US), superior hardware, more multiplats, the Gamecube's kiddy design and mostly lack of mature content are only some of the reasons why the OG xbox outsold the GCN.


Super Smash Bros melee. That's above all Mario Sunshine.....