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Miyamotoo said:
Lortsamler said:

It would mean the death of Nintendo consoles.

You mean same like Wii was death of Nintendo consoles!?

Do you think the Wii would've sold as much as it did if it was a powerful as the PS1?



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JEMC said:

But you are agreeing with me, no one knew if motion controls would work and no one knows if the supposed hybrid device will work too. Until someone does it, it's only a bet that can prove a success or a failure.

And now, allow me to ask you to reread my post as you asked me to reread the OP. I never said that handheld gaming was niche in Japan, I said that console gaming is niche. And then you just go and agree with me that NX will only have the same support 3DS and WiiU have, not more. Thanks.

Also, I said that indie seems to work first on one platform (their main one), and once they have launched it, then port it to all the other platforms that they can. And, I also said that they are already developing for WiiU and 3DS, so NX won't improve that either.

Trying to use nombers on a sales focused site... Nintendo64 sold 32 millions, that's more than half of 3DS, although the handheld will end beating her too. And yes, so far every Nintendo handheld has sold more than 50millions, but if we look at the pattern (GameBoy_ 119 mil, GameBoy Advance_ 82mil, Nintendo DS_ 155mil and Nintendo 3DS_ 53mil and rising), NX doesn't have those sales guaranteed.

Nothing's guaranteed but then some things have a better chance at being pulled off then others and a hybrid console is a far less imposing concept then a motion control based platform, what helped the Wii was that it was well planned out for a while from the cheap price point, marketing and all, no one else was also doing motion based platform at the time. This was after the GC as well so no doubt more care was taken then usual, people were skeptical then saying the exact same things you are now.

Console gaming being niche in Japan is something a hybrid platform bypasses that's one of the key factors in why such a platform would be on the way in that it's easier to manage regional differences in preference. 3DS third party support is well above any Nintendo home console bar the SNES and NES that's the whole point, the reason is because the handheld market is too huge for many to ignore especially for eastern developers where consoles in their homeland pale in comparison to the handheld market, a more powerful me 2 console will simply not get that kind of support but a hybrid would because it has a large market for itself essentially this is why SE would put a full on new Kingdom Hearts game on 3DS but not on Wii U.

Nothing is guaranteed but then it can't be denied their portables have a strong grip on the market with little resistance right now 3DS will probably cap off at 70m or so at the end of its run, each of them has hit 50m because they dominate their market and are fully pushed by Nintendo unlike the consoles. Wii U was hardly pushed through out this gen yet when 3DS was in trouble the was a straight up price cut and change of approach, a hybrid would force this every gen because it doubles as their portable they'd have to push it to the fullest because that's clearly the market they're more concerned with, the fact that the would be no secondary platform to fall back on means thay'd have to go full force from the start to ensure it works.



I'd rather have it be affordable, but I need to see at least some difference. If it's a Wii U 1.5 portable, I'd be okay with that. I just worry that it will be more like a Wii U 1.2

The U has been able to pull some beautiful games for an "under-powered" console. More importantly, the games look fantastic on the gamepad. If it's a step up in horsepower, and I can take it on the go - I'm all in!



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nope because I simply wont get one right away..... Nintendo will have to earn back my trust with NX.



Wyrdness said:
JEMC said:

But you are agreeing with me, no one knew if motion controls would work and no one knows if the supposed hybrid device will work too. Until someone does it, it's only a bet that can prove a success or a failure.

And now, allow me to ask you to reread my post as you asked me to reread the OP. I never said that handheld gaming was niche in Japan, I said that console gaming is niche. And then you just go and agree with me that NX will only have the same support 3DS and WiiU have, not more. Thanks.

Also, I said that indie seems to work first on one platform (their main one), and once they have launched it, then port it to all the other platforms that they can. And, I also said that they are already developing for WiiU and 3DS, so NX won't improve that either.

Trying to use nombers on a sales focused site... Nintendo64 sold 32 millions, that's more than half of 3DS, although the handheld will end beating her too. And yes, so far every Nintendo handheld has sold more than 50millions, but if we look at the pattern (GameBoy_ 119 mil, GameBoy Advance_ 82mil, Nintendo DS_ 155mil and Nintendo 3DS_ 53mil and rising), NX doesn't have those sales guaranteed.

Nothing's guaranteed but then some things have a better chance at being pulled off then others and a hybrid console is a far less imposing concept then a motion control based platform, what helped the Wii was that it was well planned out for a while from the cheap price point, marketing and all, no one else was also doing motion based platform at the time. This was after the GC as well so no doubt more care was taken then usual, people were skeptical then saying the exact same things you are now.

Console gaming being niche in Japan is something a hybrid platform bypasses that's one of the key factors in why such a platform would be on the way in that it's easier to manage regional differences in preference. 3DS third party support is well above any Nintendo home console bar the SNES and NES that's the whole point, the reason is because the handheld market is too huge for many to ignore especially for eastern developers where consoles in their homeland pale in comparison to the handheld market, a more powerful me 2 console will simply not get that kind of support but a hybrid would because it has a large market for itself essentially this is why SE would put a full on new Kingdom Hearts game on 3DS but not on Wii U.

Nothing is guaranteed but then it can't be denied their portables have a strong grip on the market with little resistance right now 3DS will probably cap off at 70m or so at the end of its run, each of them has hit 50m because they dominate their market and are fully pushed by Nintendo unlike the consoles. Wii U was hardly pushed through out this gen yet when 3DS was in trouble the was a straight up price cut and change of approach, a hybrid would force this every gen because it doubles as their portable they'd have to push it to the fullest because that's clearly the market they're more concerned with, the fact that the would be no secondary platform to fall back on means thay'd have to go full force from the start to ensure it works.

I could point that you are quick to mention the Kingdom Hearts game for the 3DS and not WiiU as a prove of how bad home consoles are in Japan, but while doing so you fail to mention that Kingdom Hearts 3 is a home console game that won't launch on WiiU because of its hardware, but it doesn't matter.

We see this theory on an hybrid platform from two different views, and no matter how much we talk about it, we won't change our minds.



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Slarvax said:
Miyamotoo said:
Lortsamler said:

It would mean the death of Nintendo consoles.

You mean same like Wii was death of Nintendo consoles!?

Do you think the Wii would've sold as much as it did if it was a powerful as the PS1?

Wii was slightly powerful than GC, so I don't see point of question.



Miyamotoo said:
Slarvax said:
Miyamotoo said:

You mean same like Wii was death of Nintendo consoles!?

Do you think the Wii would've sold as much as it did if it was a powerful as the PS1?

Wii was slightly powerful than GC, so I don't see point of question.

And GC was a powerful 6th Gen console, so Wii was an underpowered 7th gen console.

GC -> Wii was good because HD development was young, difficult, and expensive.

Wii U is a powerful 7th gen console... In the 8th gen. So, if we compare GC -> Wii to Wii U -> NX... It's gonna one of the most stupid decisions made by Nintendo IMO.

Less complicated version: NX will be 2 generations behind; would've the Wii sold as much in the same scenerio?



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I won't be angry because after the Wii U I no longer give a flying eff.



For home console, yes. I really don't know what kind of features they would have to introduced to get me even slightly interested. For handheld? NO! If they can come up with the protable console which is as much powerful as Wii U, it'd be amazing!



I wouldn't be angry, just disappointed.