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generic-user-1 said:
SocialistSlayer said:

no he's for letting illegals in this country with practically no consequences.

republicans are all about immigration reform, like actually enforcing our laws, stopping illegals constantantly crossing our border and breaking laws.


the main reason why so many flee to the us is the war the us is waging against the population in latin america.

stop the war on drugs and less people will come to the us.

No doubt, we've already seen the Cartels shift massive portions of their business to non-Marijuana drugs, due to the changing legal climate over Marijuana in the US.  Legalize it all, and the Cartels lose a great deal of their power.  We basically fund their enterprises.



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mornelithe said:
generic-user-1 said:


the main reason why so many flee to the us is the war the us is waging against the population in latin america.

stop the war on drugs and less people will come to the us.

No doubt, we've already seen the Cartels shift massive portions of their business to non-Marijuana drugs, due to the changing legal climate over Marijuana in the US.  Legalize it all, and the Cartels lose a great deal of their power.  We basically fund their enterprises.

you dont just fund their enterprises, you pay for their weapons with tax payer money. legalization of dope would hurt the cia the most because it would destroy alot of their partners.



generic-user-1 said:
mornelithe said:

No doubt, we've already seen the Cartels shift massive portions of their business to non-Marijuana drugs, due to the changing legal climate over Marijuana in the US.  Legalize it all, and the Cartels lose a great deal of their power.  We basically fund their enterprises.

you dont just fund their enterprises, you pay for their weapons with tax payer money. legalization of dope would hurt the cia the most because it would destroy alot of their partners.

Luckily, it's not up to the CIA.  Slowly but surely, whether the Government likes it or not, this is being taken from their control.  They can either hop on the taxation bandwagon, or not.  And I think you over-estimate the returns on Dope.  If the CIA were smart they'd be investing in Cocaine and Heroine, much much higher profit margin to be had there.



mornelithe said:
generic-user-1 said:
mornelithe said:

No doubt, we've already seen the Cartels shift massive portions of their business to non-Marijuana drugs, due to the changing legal climate over Marijuana in the US.  Legalize it all, and the Cartels lose a great deal of their power.  We basically fund their enterprises.

you dont just fund their enterprises, you pay for their weapons with tax payer money. legalization of dope would hurt the cia the most because it would destroy alot of their partners.

Luckily, it's not up to the CIA.  Slowly but surely, whether the Government likes it or not, this is being taken from their control.  They can either hop on the taxation bandwagon, or not.  And I think you over-estimate the returns on Dope.  If the CIA were smart they'd be investing in Cocaine and Heroine, much much higher profit margin to be had there.

the cia is importing heroin from afghanistan. they dont  care about profits, they only care about dark financing of warlords who fight against people the the cia dont like.



generic-user-1 said:
mornelithe said:

Luckily, it's not up to the CIA.  Slowly but surely, whether the Government likes it or not, this is being taken from their control.  They can either hop on the taxation bandwagon, or not.  And I think you over-estimate the returns on Dope.  If the CIA were smart they'd be investing in Cocaine and Heroine, much much higher profit margin to be had there.

the cia is importing heroin from afghanistan. they dont  care about profits, they only care about dark financing of warlords who fight against people the the cia dont like.

Then Pot should mean little to them, most cartels are switching to harder drugs anyway, since they can't compete with the price or quality found in the States anymore.



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mornelithe said:
generic-user-1 said:
mornelithe said:

Luckily, it's not up to the CIA.  Slowly but surely, whether the Government likes it or not, this is being taken from their control.  They can either hop on the taxation bandwagon, or not.  And I think you over-estimate the returns on Dope.  If the CIA were smart they'd be investing in Cocaine and Heroine, much much higher profit margin to be had there.

the cia is importing heroin from afghanistan. they dont  care about profits, they only care about dark financing of warlords who fight against people the the cia dont like.

Then Pot should mean little to them, most cartels are switching to harder drugs anyway, since they can't compete with the price or quality found in the States anymore.


the market for hard drugs isnt big enough to finance more than some smaller conflicts, and it will not grow,  cocaine and heroine arent in anymor, and the legalisation of pot will take away alot of the infrastructure.



generic-user-1 said:
mornelithe said:

Then Pot should mean little to them, most cartels are switching to harder drugs anyway, since they can't compete with the price or quality found in the States anymore.


the market for hard drugs isnt big enough to finance more than some smaller conflicts, and it will not grow,  cocaine and heroine arent in anymor, and the legalisation of pot will take away alot of the infrastructure.

You're kidding right?  Heroine is coming back in a huge fashion due to America's thirst for prescription opiates.  Heroine being the far cheaper solution, and many are switching over.



mornelithe said:
generic-user-1 said:


the market for hard drugs isnt big enough to finance more than some smaller conflicts, and it will not grow,  cocaine and heroine arent in anymor, and the legalisation of pot will take away alot of the infrastructure.

You're kidding right?  Heroine is coming back in a huge fashion due to America's thirst for prescription opiates.  Heroine being the far cheaper solution, and many are switching over.

but the classical heroine consumers are in decline, other drugs that arent imported take they spot.

and heroine(well opium) is grown in asia, mainly afghanistan and indochina, the cia can use whit and grey money for operations there.

and most smaller dealer who deal with hard drugs pay their rent with pot dealing.



generic-user-1 said:
mornelithe said:

You're kidding right?  Heroine is coming back in a huge fashion due to America's thirst for prescription opiates.  Heroine being the far cheaper solution, and many are switching over.

but the classical heroine consumers are in decline, other drugs that arent imported take they spot.

and heroine(well opium) is grown in asia, mainly afghanistan and indochina, the cia can use whit and grey money for operations there.

and most smaller dealer who deal with hard drugs pay their rent with pot dealing.

True, but, you could actually look at it in a good light, since women are now making huge gains in drug dependancy, especially heroine.  Equality, amirite???

It also doesn't alter the fact that heroine usage in the US has been up YoY for the last several years, due to opiate dependancy driven by the pharmaceutical industry.  Whether it's for the classical heroine user or not, isn't really germaine to the broader issue of profiteering from heroine sales.  They don't care who buys it, as long as it's being bought.



Azuren said:
Ka-pi96 said:
Anybody actually read the article?

'a comment that the Bush campaign argues was a reference to underemployed part-time workers'


But reading the article might make it less appealing to left voters. 

 

That being said, people who vote on party lines and not on policies should be barred from voting. 

Sorry man but that is not a proper reason to take away someone's voting rights. 

In response to his comments about context... that is spin at its finest.  He said we need to work more hours, we need to be more productive.  

The context in which he dilivered the comments was crazy and out of touch.  We work a lot of hours as is.  And the productivity of those hours has gone way up while wages have stagnated.  The problem is that we as a country are generating so much wealth, but our wages have not responded in kind.   Furthermore, its really crazy for someone how has made over $30 million in the last five years thinks that we are not productive enough.  

Thats why people recoiled at his comment.  No matter how hard we work, we will probalby not come close to taking a slice of our own productivity that is ANY WHERE near a large as what he enjoys.  Does that mean we aren't working hard enough?  

For most people its not about hours but the actual pay rate.  This is why every state that proposed a minimun wage increase and put it on a ballot in 2014 saw it succeed.  This shows that people want a higher portion of what they produce.  There is nothing crazy about it.