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spemanig said:
I think it's stupid that it's even a discussion. Him being black shouldn't be a talking point on either side. It's not "good for minorities." It's good for John Boyega. You know what's good for minorities? Not always bringing up insignificant shit like this. I'm black and the most fucking annoying thing in the world is the false idea that I need to be "represented."

Blacks don't need some starring role in a movie. Just because someone is a minor black character, doesn't mean they're "token" or a "stereotype" or stupid shit like that. I don't need anyones help to justify my race, so a black guy starring in a movie isn't some black "win." They are just another character with another skin color. You know what's racially insensitive? The prevalent thought process that one minor black character implies that all black people are now assumedly minor. There's one damsel in distress? Must mean the director is calling all women weak, right? One mean gay character? The director totally hates gays.

And now, suddenly one black guy gets a starring role, and it's a good thing because? Because all black people are strong and powerful leaders now? We're not individuals who have to earn leading roles based off our talents, but a race who needs to be represented entirely as something only a statistical fraction of ANY demographic would fit under. Exactly.

The sooner people stop making a big deal about shit like this, the sooner racism really ends. He's just a guy with a lead roll. Good for him. He alone earned it for he alone. That's where it ends.

I agree 100% with everything you said. Racism is something I absolutely can't stand nor does it even make any sense. We are all human and we all share this planet together. We all have equal rights to be here and that is the bottom line. Exactly how does a persons race or gender makes anyone different? That's a question that no one has properly explained and is contradict by actual facts. A person is a person! Yet people don't see a different between the different species of cats or dogs and they are all represented as a cat or a dog and not "My orange cat is better than your black cat"! That is the stupidest remark ever, yet people seem to think it's acceptable to apply that judgement to humans when humans seem to call themselves the most intelligent and superior species in the universe. Oh and sorry to any Aliens whom may be offended by this lol XD Also last I checked Dolphins have higher brain capabilities than humans. Although it seems even something such as a gopher seems to be able to understand the differentiation of humans that a freaking human is even capable of doing. Should a Toxicroak judge a Psyduck because he's fucking retarded? Okay that is completely irrelevant but I had to say that! Back to the point this who thing is a stupid as that last remark.

A person is a person and every person has all the same rights. It's up to those individuals to choose how they wish to live their own lives. Choices can unjustly be judge based on their committed action but not their race or gender. Hey you're not exactly going to praise and asshole who stole your grandmas purse or fucked your woman.




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I don't believe he is the main character. It would be an extremely risky decision to do that in terms of gross. Wether we like it or not, it does have huge repercussions in terms of the audience that will be atracted to the movie.



Nem said:
I don't believe he is the main character. It would be an extremely risky decision to do that in terms of gross. Wether we like it or not, it does have huge repercussions in terms of the audience that will be atracted to the movie.


Last I checked the movie is called "Star Wars". I'm sure it would still sell like hot cakes if it starred Kristen Stuart, Will Farrel, Kevin James, Justin Beiber, and Charlie Sheen!




McDonaldsGuy said:
Aeolus451 said:
McDonaldsGuy said:

I was ready to consider this movie canon until I saw they are just repeating the original three movies: the Empire is still around, Stormtroopers, Star Destroyers, etc. etc. I felt Return of the Jedi was a satisfying conclusion to that arc.

There seems to be no reason to watch anything after Episode VII because the novelty of Han, Luke, and Leia appearing on the big screen again will be gone.


Where did you hear or read that? From what I understand this is supposed to take place after the emperor and vader dies.

I think they are just renaming the Rebellion as the "resistance" and the Empire is now "the new order." Sounds like bad fan fiction.


hmm. My money is on that it's a trilogy taking place after the emperor and vader dies. It would explain why the original cast is older and how new force users are trained during that period. That is also the period of time when several books were written about. All of the books, shows, movies are connected with eachother and don't override anything. They are basically the same arc. 

Doing a remake of the original trilogy and changing major things or doing a trilogy that takes place right after the deaths of the emperor and vader but ignoring the books about the era really throws a wrench into the system. I think it will piss off fans either way. 



Airaku said:
Nem said:
I don't believe he is the main character. It would be an extremely risky decision to do that in terms of gross. Wether we like it or not, it does have huge repercussions in terms of the audience that will be atracted to the movie.


Last I checked the movie is called "Star Wars". I'm sure it would still sell like hot cakes if it starred Kristen Stuart, Will Farrel, Kevin James, Justin Beiber, and Charlie Sheen!


haha. No. It's not a romantic comedy. 



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Aeolus451 said:
Airaku said:


Last I checked the movie is called "Star Wars". I'm sure it would still sell like hot cakes if it starred Kristen Stuart, Will Farrel, Kevin James, Justin Beiber, and Charlie Sheen!


haha. No. It's not a romantic comedy. 

Nah it's not. If you threw those actors into Star Wars though and it's a serious Star Wars movie..... It'll still be a sell out the box office will explode.






Airaku said:
Aeolus451 said:
Airaku said:


Last I checked the movie is called "Star Wars". I'm sure it would still sell like hot cakes if it starred Kristen Stuart, Will Farrel, Kevin James, Justin Beiber, and Charlie Sheen!


haha. No. It's not a romantic comedy. 

Nah it's not. If you threw those actors into Star Wars though and it's a serious Star Wars movie..... It'll still be a sell out the box office will explode.




I'm not saying that it wouldn't sell but it would piss off the star wars fanbase. It would attract an entire different demographic to it.



Aeolus451 said:
Airaku said:

Nah it's not. If you threw those actors into Star Wars though and it's a serious Star Wars movie..... It'll still be a sell out the box office will explode.




I'm not saying that it wouldn't sell but it would piss off the star wars fanbase. It would attract an entire different demographic to it.


Indeed it would. It would piss them off hardcore, yet they would still go and see it. Yes an entire different demographic would be attracted and yet both audiances will watch because of its brand name. Oh god don't give them any ideas, if they sell out and pull an Activison for the money. Oh please no.... it's horrifying :'(




spemanig said:
I think it's stupid that it's even a discussion. Him being black shouldn't be a talking point on either side. It's not "good for minorities." It's good for John Boyega. You know what's good for minorities? Not always bringing up insignificant shit like this. I'm black and the most fucking annoying thing in the world is the false idea that I need to be "represented."

Blacks don't need some starring role in a movie. Just because someone is a minor black character, doesn't mean they're "token" or a "stereotype" or stupid shit like that. I don't need anyones help to justify my race, so a black guy starring in a movie isn't some black "win." They are just another character with another skin color. You know what's racially insensitive? The prevalent thought process that one minor black character implies that all black people are now assumedly minor. There's one damsel in distress? Must mean the director is calling all women weak, right? One mean gay character? The director totally hates gays.

And now, suddenly one black guy gets a starring role, and it's a good thing because? Because all black people are strong and powerful leaders now? We're not individuals who have to earn leading roles based off our talents, but a race who needs to be represented entirely as something only a statistical fraction of ANY demographic would fit under. Exactly.

The sooner people stop making a big deal about shit like this, the sooner racism really ends. He's just a guy with a lead roll. Good for him. He alone earned it for he alone. That's where it ends.


Tell that to SJWs.



Airaku said:
Aeolus451 said:


I'm not saying that it wouldn't sell but it would piss off the star wars fanbase. It would attract an entire different demographic to it.


Indeed it would. It would piss them off hardcore, yet they would still go and see it. Yes an entire different demographic would be attracted and yet both audiances will watch because of its brand name. Oh god don't give them any ideas, if they sell out and pull an Activison for the money. Oh please no.... it's horrifying :'(


I think that you're underestimating the star wars fanbase.